We get them installed for $300 here. 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of jp
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:39 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations

I would check with the electric utility to see if they will do poles and 
for how much, sometimes it's reasonable. Local electricians will know 
who the inexpensive pole subcontractors are, as electricians often need 
poles installed in the course of installing their part of new electrical 
services.

You might even want the electricians to handle the pole installs, any 
conduit runs (for power to the poles if power is nearby). I would not 
assume there are electrical outlets everywhere you want them and it's 
not all low voltage wiring, so some relationship with an electrician may 
be necessary.

I had one experience with a windmill and it wasn't good. It was an older 
air-x 400. I'm sure newer ones are better, but mine vibrated the tower 
quite bit, and seized up after a couple months. Solar can work very well 
if you don't skimp on panel and battery. Most of them attempts you read 
about are people trying it out, skimping on both battery and panel 
capacity and they are setting them self up for early trouble. On the 
other hand, big companies speccing out solar systems will massively 
overbuild to protect their reputation and sell more stuff. New gear like 
UBNT and mikrotik uses very little electrical power, making solar more 
practical than ever.

For the wisp stuff, you'll want to either find a qualified local WISP 
company with long term maintenance in mind. Ocassionally, surges and 
power issues will break things or cause things to need a power cycle. 
Lacking that, a computer service shop that is good at networking might 
be able to maintain it, but I wouldn't suggest a computer service shop 
for the setup.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 06:08:35PM -0400, Fred Goldstein wrote:
> At 7/19/2010 05:53 PM, you wrote:
> >Fred:
> >
> >I have some "poles" on my network.  They are hard to climb and service
would
> >be the only caveats I'd share.  Consider windmills.  The ones they sell
to
> >keep ponds aerated are aesthetically pleasing and not too expensive.
> 
> You're right; we'll probably need a bucket truck to do poles, both to 
> install and service. Are you talking about using wind for power 
> too?  There are few or no local windmills  otherwise.  Some of the 
> best relay sites may be off the grid so a wind charger could be 
> practical.  Solar might work but lake-effect snow could be a 
> problem.  Lake-effect wind, on the other hand, would be helpful.
> 
> >Friendly Regards,
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >Mike Gilchrist
> >Disruptive Technologist
> >Advanced Wireless Express
> >P.O. Box 255
> >Toledo, IA   52342
> >239.770.6203
> >m...@aweiowa.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >Behalf Of Fred R. Goldstein
> >Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 3:24 PM
> >To: WISPA General List
> >Subject: [WISPA] Pole-mounted base stations
> >
> >A design I'm working on is in a hilly wooded rural/resort area, not
> >farmland.  It will need a fair number (perhaps a few dozen) sites to
> >cover the planned turf.  Each node will need both backhaul (mesh, in
> >the loose sense) and access antennas.  The obvious place to put these
> >is atop utility poles.  I think the local electric cooperative will
> >cooperate and let us rent pole space.  We may however need to put
> >additional poles in some places.  They seem cheaper than metal towers
> >and are less likely to raise the locals' eyebrows.
> >
> >Does anyone out there have experience with this sort of
> >arrangement?  We're in the budgeting stage now.  I have an idea what
> >the radios cost but the installation might be the bigger deal.  The
> >big engineering firms are more used to fancy cellular and fiber
> >installs, not WISP-style radios.  So we may also want to bring in
> >someone with this kind of WISP experience to do some consulting or
> >setup with us too.  Thanks.
> >
> >   --
> >   Fred Goldstein    k1io   fgoldstein "at" ionary.com
> >   ionary Consulting              http://www.ionary.com/
> >   +1 617 795 2701
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