Depends on the equipment but the rule of thumb I always was told was to
power it up only long enough to disable the radio unless you are using
loads.  If you don't load the radio and run it long enough, it will indeed
be damaged.  I have various examples of that laying around from where uf/l
connectors had popped off the MT cards.  Yeah, they still work but only for
close in use now!



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Dueck
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 1:44 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.

I know. 

I had trazeo FDD radios that other guys had prepared and 'tested.' Their
testing was putting them back to back.  Like that, even with the wrong
channel shields they connected.  I was already suspicious about them not
working, so I put up the NS5's as a backup plan, put their power all the
way down, and set channel width to 5Mhz.  When I got to the other side
and I could not link with the FDD's, I logged in through someone else's
connection to the Nano at the other side and changed both side's
settings till they came up.  It was awesome to at least link, but it was
not stable enough to keep them up.  I'd say the link was up about 90% of
the time.


This brings me to another question.  Do radios get damage by not having
an antenna connected when powering up?  Say just to configure them.



On 08/30/2010 10:28 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> Please do not take this as a personal jab...
>
> If one does not do their homework on link calculation , and size the 
> equipment properly... What makes one think that they should be 
> successful with the Link ?
>
> And on top of that what give one the right to 'Dismiss' the whole Mfg's 
> product line for such results...
>
> :)
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>
>
> On 8/31/2010 12:17 AM, Mark Dueck wrote:
>   
>> Ok, mine was with integrated 16dbi antenna.  It was not my plan to use
>> them, but the other radios did not come up, so had to resort to the
>> NS5.. I know don't even remember if they were M's or not.
>>
>> On 08/30/2010 10:06 PM, Jason Bailey wrote:
>>     
>>> 14 mile link,bullet m5 w/pac 28db grids,,,,,,,,40+each way,for months.
>>>
>>> --- On *Tue, 8/31/10, Mark Dueck /<m...@netking.bz>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     From: Mark Dueck <m...@netking.bz>
>>>     Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.
>>>     To: wireless@wispa.org
>>>     Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 12:02 AM
>>>
>>>     I can tell you not more than 14 miles because I did a 14mile link
>>>     with these for 3 weeks. It was better than no link, but they were
>>>     not stable. I was getting about 512k throughput.
>>>
>>>     On 08/30/2010 09:24 PM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
>>>       
>>>>     Distance?
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>     - Jerry
>>>
>>>     *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>>
<http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
>>>     [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>>
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>>>     *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>>     *Sent:* Monday, August 30, 2010 8:16 PM
>>>     *To:* WISPA General List
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.
>>>
>>>     I have NSM5 that do 150 megs aggregate right now.
>>>
>>>         On Aug 30, 2010 11:09 PM, "MDK" <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us
>>>
<http://us.mc525.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rea...@muddyfrogwater.us>>
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>         I've already got UBNT stuff in production, and I know without
>>>         a doubt it
>>>         won't handle 100m full duplex - especially at 25 miles.
>>>
>>>         Might be possible to do parallel links or something, but that
>>>         would require
>>>         some kind of load failover system at each end, since no way
>>>         will it do 100 m
>>>         one way, if there's any backward traffic.
>>>
>>>         What Proxim stuff?
>>>
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>>>         Subject: Re: [WISPA] Suggestions for high bandwidth @ 25 miles.
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