The prob;lem I ran into with building out to them is they want those loop
fees for <entering> the fiber huts + a break in fee. I have someone who says
he can get me into a place with out much if any fee, at $20/mbit. We will
see.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Nick Olsen <n...@brevardwireless.com>wrote:

> Yeah, Loop fee's are the killer. On-net bandwidth is cheap bandwidth. I've
> seen cogent come down to $3 per megabit.
> And I've heard of Hurricane electric going as low as 75 cents per megabit.
> Just got to build out to them.
>
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Operations
> (321) 205-1100 x106
>
>
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> *From*: "Jeromie Reeves" <jree...@18-30chat.net>
> *Sent*: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:51 PM
> *To*: n...@brevardwireless.com, "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
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> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
>
>
> Yup I bet it could. Ive seen 2 of them at the same time max out a 15mbit
> pipe. That lasted about as long as it took to re-enable the bw queues.
> Still a dozen or so and the eat the entire pipe and i knock em down a tad
> more, but under 900kbit and it seams to choke up. After moving to Ubnt M
> gear, my net feed is my bottleneck for sure these days. Looking at getting
> fiber points out at the ends of the network but its not easy to get away
> from that loop fee and that kills it for now.
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Nick Olsen <n...@brevardwireless.com>wrote:
>
>> I think the big thing here is the way they do video. Hulu, has like 3
>> quality settings. And you set them. Atleast with the desktop app, The flash
>> on the pages will try to autoselect. Netflix is much more in depth. It just
>> picks what works, With the ability to go WAY down on bitrate. When I had a
>> netflix account, It could pull as little as like 200-300 K and the video was
>> about as good as what you got out of the first camera phones. But then I've
>> seen it jump all the way up to like 8Mb/s to do "SD" quality. This was all
>> on a PC, Which only does "SD" where the consoles and set top boxes will do
>> HD. Don't want to even imagine what they can pull if its maxed out, And you
>> have the capacity on hand. I'd guess something like 15-20Mb/s
>>
>>
>>  Nick Olsen
>> Network Operations
>> (321) 205-1100 x106
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From*: "Jeromie Reeves" <jree...@18-30chat.net>
>> *Sent*: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:29 PM
>> *To*: j284...@yahoo.com, "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>
>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] netflix/hulu IP's
>>
>>
>> Yea hulu is hungry. Netflix has a much better codec. I would love it
>> if WISPA could work some kind of deal with netflix so that we could
>> offer netflix for 'free' with a specific package. If they charge 8.99
>> I can see some kind of package deal along with one of the caching
>> server setups. With the Wii, PS3 and Xbox 360 support most of my users
>> would not even need a pc or other STB device. If my cost was in the 3
>> to 5$ range I know I would have to beat them off with a stick and
>> would naturally only be packaged with the correct accounts. Add in the
>> correct voip setup (still on the look out for a good rebrandable voip)
>> and it would be a good triple.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:49 PM, <j284...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Agreed on hulu,its hungry!
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
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