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What I haven't yet worked out is whether two routers can establish a BGP 
peering session over a VPLS VC.
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Should not be any different than setting up BGP over a Physical 
Connection.. As long IP is being passed it should not be a problem.


Faisal Imtiaz
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On 9/11/2010 4:47 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
> I am thinking its time to use a switch as a switch and a router as a
> router. I am thinking about using this for the MPLS backbone and put in
> actual 7200/7300 routers at locations where full BGP needs to be
> offered. What I haven't yet worked out is whether two routers can
> establish a BGP peering session over a VPLS VC.
>
>
> On 09/11/2010 01:25 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>> Beware of the TCAM size on that box.
>> IIRC it hasn't been able to take full internet routes since 2008
>> because of that limitation.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins<m...@smarterbroadband.net>   
>> wrote:
>>
>>> After many days of searching it looks like I found something in the sub
>>> $20k range. The ME-C6524GT-8S appears to do it all.
>>>
>>> On 09/08/2010 04:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer 3 
>>>> switches...
>>>> You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route memory) in addition to
>>>> RAM on Layer 3 switches and apart from decked out Cisco 6500s or
>>>> greater you aren't going to find that.
>>>>
>>>> The Juniper MX80 should work. It is 2U and can have 48 GigE ports. You
>>>> should be able to get it for $30-50K.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively you could try a multihop BGP setup like Cogent has been
>>>> known to do.
>>>> Setup one BGP session between the customer and your Layer 3 switch at
>>>> the tower. This carriers a route for your border router/route
>>>> reflector to the customer and vice versa.
>>>> Then setup a BGP session between the customer and your border
>>>> router/route reflector.
>>>>
>>>> Or you could drag MPLS into it but 2 simple BGP sessions seems like
>>>> the most straightforward solution to me.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Matt Jenkins<m...@smarterbroadband.net>    
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000 base-T ports
>>>>> with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have any
>>>>> suggestions?
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who wonder why.... I am upgrading all of my backhauls to
>>>>> support ~300mbps. In addition I need to be able to offer BGP connections
>>>>> to customers from this ring of backhauls.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Matt
>>>>>
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