Yikes $40k again. I am trying to come up with a sub $12k solution. On 09/11/2010 02:39 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote: > No I haven't. But I will look into it now. Let me know how your talk > with the sales guys goes? > > On 09/11/2010 02:38 PM, Jon Auer wrote: > >> That makes sense. >> BGP over a VPLS VC shouldn't be any different than BGP across a >> Ethernet cable AFAIK. >> >> Have you checked out the Alcatel-Lucent SR series routers? I'm >> supposed to be talking to one of their sales reps next week. They nare >> really trying to gain market share and i hear hey have some good >> deals. >> >> On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins<m...@smarterbroadband.net> >> wrote: >> >> >>> I am thinking its time to use a switch as a switch and a router as a >>> router. I am thinking about using this for the MPLS backbone and put in >>> actual 7200/7300 routers at locations where full BGP needs to be >>> offered. What I haven't yet worked out is whether two routers can >>> establish a BGP peering session over a VPLS VC. >>> >>> >>> On 09/11/2010 01:25 PM, Jon Auer wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Beware of the TCAM size on that box. >>>> IIRC it hasn't been able to take full internet routes since 2008 >>>> because of that limitation. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, September 11, 2010, Matt Jenkins<m...@smarterbroadband.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> After many days of searching it looks like I found something in the sub >>>>> $20k range. The ME-C6524GT-8S appears to do it all. >>>>> >>>>> On 09/08/2010 04:16 PM, Jon Auer wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Needing full BGP routes takes you out of the realm of cheap Layer 3 >>>>>> switches... >>>>>> You need to worry about TCAM (hardware route memory) in addition to >>>>>> RAM on Layer 3 switches and apart from decked out Cisco 6500s or >>>>>> greater you aren't going to find that. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Juniper MX80 should work. It is 2U and can have 48 GigE ports. You >>>>>> should be able to get it for $30-50K. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alternatively you could try a multihop BGP setup like Cogent has been >>>>>> known to do. >>>>>> Setup one BGP session between the customer and your Layer 3 switch at >>>>>> the tower. This carriers a route for your border router/route >>>>>> reflector to the customer and vice versa. >>>>>> Then setup a BGP session between the customer and your border >>>>>> router/route reflector. >>>>>> >>>>>> Or you could drag MPLS into it but 2 simple BGP sessions seems like >>>>>> the most straightforward solution to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Matt Jenkins<m...@smarterbroadband.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I am trying to find a Layer 3 switch that has 24 or 48 1000 base-T ports >>>>>>> with enough RAM to handle Full BGP Internet Routes. Anyone have any >>>>>>> suggestions? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For those who wonder why.... I am upgrading all of my backhauls to >>>>>>> support ~300mbps. 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