Here is what we are currently doing.

Radio<------>Shielded/shrieen cable-->Shielded  Surface Mount Jack--> 
Passive POE (Shielded) ---->Ethernet Surge Protector (APC 
PNET4)/Grounded --->Non-Shielded patch cable --->MK 750G.


Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom

On 9/12/2010 7:19 PM, RickG wrote:
> Faisal, You plug your radios directly into the routers? Do you use
> Ethernet surge protectors between them? Are they grounded? Shielded cable?
>
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappydsl.net
> <mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>> wrote:
>
>     I have Mikrotik 750 / 750G, with Multiple Rocket M5 for a typical POP..
>
>     I am not getting any packet loss, when doing pings from the MK to Rocket
>     M5, with the timeout changed to 100.
>
>     Regards.
>
>     Faisal Imtiaz
>     Snappy Internet & Telecom
>
>
>     On 9/11/2010 8:52 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>      > Rick:
>      >
>      > Since I know you have MikroTik in your network, do you have any that
>      > have a Rocket plugged into them?  If you do, open up Winbox, go to
>      > tools, Ping.  Change the timeout to 100, and ping your rocket.
>       Do you
>      > have any lost packets?  We're seeing 2-7% packet loss.  Are you using
>      > 100mbit?  Through the air, everything is fine.  I'm getting good
>     speeds,
>      > but when it goes through the Rocket, and onto the AP, I'm seeing
>     lots of
>      > packet loss.
>      >
>      > Regards,
>      >
>      > Chuck
>      >
>      >
>      > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:22 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com
>     <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>
>      > <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Here is my interface stats:
>      >     XM.v5.2# ifconfig
>      >     ath0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97
>      >                UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST
>       MTU:1500
>      >       Metric:1
>      >                RX packets:1704984 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>     frame:0
>      >                TX packets:2180287 errors:0 dropped:813 overruns:0
>     carrier:0
>      >                collisions:0 txqueuelen:200
>      >                RX bytes:430972687 (411.0 MiB)  TX
>     bytes:2053965333 (1.9 GiB)
>      >
>      >     br0       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97
>      >                inet addr:10.10.100.29  Bcast:10.10.100.255
>      >       Mask:255.255.255.0
>      >                UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST  MTU:1500
>       Metric:1
>      >                RX packets:187903 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>     frame:0
>      >                TX packets:5865 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>     carrier:0
>      >                collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>      >                RX bytes:18303057 (17.4 MiB)  TX bytes:566985
>     (553.6 KiB)
>      >
>      >     eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:19:1B:97
>      >                UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST  MTU:1500
>       Metric:1
>      >                RX packets:2171167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>     frame:0
>      >                TX packets:1704486 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>     carrier:0
>      >                collisions:0 txqueuelen:500
>      >                RX bytes:2053358505 (1.9 GiB)  TX bytes:431157904
>     (411.1 MiB)
>      >
>      >     eth1_real Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 02:15:6D:19:1B:97
>      >                UP BROADCAST PROMISC MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>      >                RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>      >                TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>      >                collisions:0 txqueuelen:500
>      >                RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
>      >
>      >     lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
>      >                inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>      >                UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>      >                RX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>      >                TX packets:1 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>      >                collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>      >                RX bytes:89 (89.0 B)  TX bytes:89 (89.0 B)
>      >
>      >     wifi0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:18:1B:97
>      >                UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>      >                RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>      >                TX packets:0 errors:11 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>      >                collisions:0 txqueuelen:511
>      >                RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
>      >                Interrupt:48 Memory:b0000000-b0010000
>      >
>      >     XM.v5.2#
>      >
>      >
>      >     On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Chuck Hogg
>     <ch...@shelbybb.com <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>
>      > <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >         I'm just happy that I'm not the only one with this problem.
>      >
>      >         Regards,
>      >
>      >         Chuck
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >         On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Steve Barnes
>     <st...@pcswin.com <mailto:st...@pcswin.com>
>      > <mailto:st...@pcswin.com <mailto:st...@pcswin.com>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >             Justin the power supply is outputting 15.3 Vdc as far
>     as the
>      >             other MT on the tower see.
>      >
>      >             *Steve Barnes*
>      >
>      >             General Manager
>      >
>      >             PCS-WIN <http://www.pcswin.com/>
>      >
>      >             RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
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>      >             *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org
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>      > <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>     <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>
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>      > <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>     <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>] *On Behalf Of *Justin
>      >             Wilson
>      >             *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:30 AM
>      >
>      >
>      >             *To:* WISPA General List
>      >             *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
>      >
>      >                 In our case we had a switch we put “inline” and that
>      >             made no difference.  I figured it might have been an
>     issue
>      >             with the 493G board.  We used to see issues with
>     Tranzeo and
>      >             450Gs so I figured it might be similar.  Putting the
>     switch
>      >             in did not help.  Cable run is only about 20 feet.  It is
>      >             being powered by a 12 Volt power supply instead of 24.
>      >               Other devices on the tower are able to get good
>     speeds to
>      >             the Mikortik.
>      >
>      >                  Some theories at the moment:
>      >
>      >                  1.When the radio transmits it draws enough power
>     away
>      >             from the ethernet chipset to cause issues.
>      >                  2.The unit really does need 24volt (or higher
>     than 12
>      >             at least)
>      >                  3.The Unit itself has an issue with the ethernet
>     port.
>      >                  4.Mikrotik board has an issue.
>      >
>      >                  Justin
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>      >             *From: *Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com
>     <mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com>
>      > <http://ch...@shelbybb.com <http://shelbybb.com>>>
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>      >             *Date: *Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:11:48 -0400
>      >             *To: *<fai...@snappydsl.net
>     <mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net> <http://fai...@snappydsl.net
>     <http://snappydsl.net>>>,
>      >             WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org
>     <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>      > <http://wireless@wispa.org <http://wispa.org>>>
>      >             *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
>      >
>      >             I'm running AirOS V5.2.1-RC2 (which is the latest as of
>      >             yesterday)
>      >
>      >             It happened with the factory firmware and the RC1 as
>     well.
>      >
>      >             The issue also occurs with my laptop running btest or any
>      >             type of ping flood.
>      >
>      >             I have 6 cat5 runs up one of the towers, Motorola
>     works fine
>      >             and I have switched cables, different manufacturer as
>     well.
>      >               Same issue.
>      >
>      >             When I use the air test from the UBNT device it works
>     fine.
>      >               When I plug a laptop in on each side, I get the
>     same results.
>      >
>      >             No bandwidth shaping.  Have tried multiple different
>     devices
>      >             on each side, the only thing that works is an expensive
>      >             Managed Dell Switch.
>      >
>      >             Regards,
>      >
>      >             Chuck
>      >
>      >
>      >             On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
>      > <fai...@snappydsl.net <mailto:fai...@snappydsl.net>
>     <http://fai...@snappydsl.net <http://snappydsl.net>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >             Is it  possible to change and test to see if it the
>     Radios's
>      >             or the
>      >             MK493ah that is root cause of this issue.
>      >
>      >             Also, do you get the same results when you run the
>     test from
>      >             one side or
>      >             the other ?
>      >             Could you have some Bandwidth Shaping in place ?
>      >
>      >             do you have another Mikrotik eg. 750g that you could plug
>      >             int one side
>      >             to see if that makes a difference ?
>      >             (I have Rocket M5's working on MK750 & MK750g.. no
>     issues...
>      >
>      >             Another suggestion to try is .. change the firmware
>     to the
>      >             3x train on
>      >             the MK493ah board and see if you get the same results..
>      >
>      >             Got to narrow down further...
>      >
>      >             Do both sides of the link (I am assuming both sides
>     have a
>      >             MK router ),
>      >             showing similar behavior between the Rocket & Mk Router ?
>      >
>      >             Just for kicks, you can update the firmware to 5.2.1 beta
>      >             3... (get it
>      >             from the UBNT Forum) and see if the results change..
>     if they
>      >             don' then
>      >             ... pretty sure it is not a radio side issue....
>      >
>      >
>      >             Faisal Imtiaz
>      >             Snappy Internet & Telecom
>      >
>      >
>      >             On 9/7/2010 10:50 PM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>      > >  Set all to Auto Neg and no change
>      > >  Here is SSH report
>      > >  XM.v5.2# /bin/ifconfig
>      > >  ath0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85
>      > >             UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC ALLMULTI MULTICAST
>      >               MTU:1500
>      > >  Metric:1
>      > >             RX packets:965042 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>      >             frame:0
>      > >             TX packets:713224 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>      >             carrier:0
>      > >             collisions:0 txqueuelen:200
>      > >             RX bytes:1138023050 (1.0 GiB)  TX
>      >             bytes:100227281 (95.5 MiB)
>      > >
>      > >  br0       Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85
>      > >             inet addr:10.10.2.179  Bcast:10.10.2.183
>      >               Mask:255.255.255.248
>      > >             UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST
>      >               MTU:1500  Metric:1
>      > >             RX packets:7089 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>      >             frame:0
>      > >             TX packets:7162 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>      >             carrier:0
>      > >             collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>      > >             RX bytes:1499867 (1.4 MiB)  TX bytes:3939545
>      >             (3.7 MiB)
>      > >
>      > >  br0:0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:60:92:85
>      > >             inet addr:169.254.146.133  Bcast:169.254.255.255
>      > >  Mask:255.255.0.0
>      > >             UP BROADCAST RUNNING ALLMULTI MULTICAST
>      >               MTU:1500  Metric:1
>      > >
>      > >  eth0_real Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:15:6D:61:92:85
>      > >             UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST
>      >               MTU:1500  Metric:1
>      > >             RX packets:708537 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>      >             frame:0
>      > >             TX packets:959167 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
>      >             carrier:0
>      > >             collisions:0 txqueuelen:500
>      > >             RX bytes:96555669 (92.0 MiB)  TX
>      >             bytes:1136564610 (1.0 GiB)
>      > >
>      > >  Steve Barnes
>      > >  Manager
>      > >  PCS-WIN
>      > >  RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>      > >
>      > > > -----Original Message-----
>      > > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>     <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
>      > <http://wireless-boun...@wispa.org <http://wispa.org>>
>      >             [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>     <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>]
>      > > > On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
>      > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 7:31 PM
>      > > > To: WISPA General List
>      > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] PowerBridge 5M
>      > > >
>      > > > What is the Firmware you are running on the PowerBridges ?
>      > > > and what are the signal levels... on Chain 0 / Chain 1
>      > > >
>      > > > ..Also Make sure the MTU / L2MTU on the Mikrotik are
>      >             1500/1524
>      > > >
>      > > > Try to auto negotiation on the ports on both the
>      >             Mikrotik&  PBM5
>      > > >
>      > > > also, ssh into the PBM5&  use /bin/ifconfig command to
>      >             see if there
>      > >  are any
>      > > > errors on the Ethernet Port and duplex mismatch ?
>      > > >
>      > > >
>      > > > Faisal Imtiaz
>      > > > Snappy Internet&  Telecom
>      > > > 7266 SW 48 Street
>      > > > Miami, Fl 33155
>      > > > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>      > > > Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email:
>      >             supp...@snappydsl.net <http://supp...@snappydsl.net>
>      > > >
>      > > > On 9/7/2010 6:44 PM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>      > > >> I changed out a StarOS backhaul with a pair of
>      >             PowerBridge 5M radios, 4
>      > > >> mile link.  I Have an odd issue. The link is perfect
>      >             130MB 99% Airmax.
>      > > >> UBNT Speed test from radio to radio is 84Mb.  Now the
>      >             interesting
>      > >  issue,
>      > > >> both radios are plugged in to MT 493AH 4.11 OS.
>      >               Running MT Bandwidth
>      > > >> test from MT to MT  TCP speeds are horrible.  14 Mb Dn
>      >             and 6 Mb Upload.
>      > > >> We tried all kinds of tests finally realized (after the
>      >             climber was on
>      > > >> the ground and in my office) that if I do a speed test
>      >             from the
>      > > >> PowerBridge station to a Rocket plugged into the same
>      >             Mikrotik that I
>      > > >> get 14 Mb x 6 Mb through a 100% wired connection (UBNT
>      >             to Port-2 MT,
>      > > >> Port-6 to UBNT Rocket)  We had tried different ports to
>      >             no avail and I
>      > > >> test from MT AP thru MT 493AH to 2^nd MT AP and I got
>      >             50 Mb x 50Mb.
>      > > >> Then I realized that 2 hops across the wireless link I
>      >             had a
>      > > >> NanoBridge.  A test to that across the wireless side of
>      >             the link
>      > >  gave me
>      > > >> a 30 Mb x 35Mb.  So it come down to a single
>      >             PowerBridge radio that
>      > > >> either has a bad ethernet port  or a bad POE/cable
>      >             between the UBNT and
>      > > >> MT, or some kind of incompatibility between the MT and
>      > >  PowerBridge.  All
>      > > >> ports are set to 100Mb FDX not Auto negotiate.  This MT
>      >             493AH is
>      > > >> relatively new with Gig option. When running speed test
>      >             there are no
>      > > >> ethernet errors or packet errors on the MT.
>      > > >>
>      > > >> What else can I check from the ground.  Unit is 250 ft
>      >             up and
>      > >  requires a
>      > > >> climber I don’t have daily access to.
>      > > >>
>      > > >> Will the PowerBridge 5M work with 12-15 Volt.  I know
>      >             it wants 24VDC I
>      > > >> don’t currently have that on this tower but had no
>      >             issue with others on
>      > > >> different towers at 12 V
>      > > >>
>      > > >> Steve Barnes
>      > > >>
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