I think you will have problems either way without splitting off into 
another AP.

But I have a fundamental question.  What contractually are you locked into? 
 You can climb the tower.  You can replace the gear.  What you are putting 
up is larger than whats there already.  If all that is ok then why make a 
distinction between two small APs and one larger one?  Seems kind silly 
doesn't it - not weight, size or windloading...  but just cause you know 
its only one radio makes it ok...  I would recommend using two-three 
smaller APs that take up the same size as the one you propose to put up 
there - I see that as your only path to success with UBNT or MT.  You have 
just reached the voip limit and either way you cannot resolve it.  Frankly 
I'm surprised people can even have a conversation with what you have 
currently.

I'd get creative if possible.  Put a couple smaller Nanostations up there 
instead of one large sector, at least you could split the traffic.  If what 
you have is working you may just decide if fixing a few peoples voice is 
worth the investment.  Buying them a copper line is probably cheaper for 
you at $50 per month rather than replace all your gear.  Your option of 
moving to UBNT with the dream of airmax fixing everything just seems 
fouled.  I use lots of both - your taking a large risk of time and money 
with no guaranteed results - it could even be worse when you are done, that 
would suck...  I'd think about it a little more before you execute - snow 
or not... 

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
877-804-3001 x102

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From: "Steve Barnes" <st...@pcswin.com>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:16 PM
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

I guess I didn't make myself clear.  They are not concerned about slow 
speeds of downloads more of a matter that there is 60 clients hitting an AP 
with no TDMA or any kind of timing and they start griping about their VOIP. 
 I was always told that on a 20 mhz 802.11b/g network that you were best to 
stay under 40 clients.  On a 10 Mhz 802.11g not to go much over 60 Clients. 
  I see that the Airmax with the TDMA will handle a higher density of 
clients per AP.

Is my thinking wrong on these numbers?

Steve Barnes
RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service

-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge

Or have you tried different channels?  Is it a newer radio in the MT
so you can do a spectrum analysis?

I would expect up to 15 megs aggregate out of a 10Mhz 802.11a AP and
if you are at 1/3 of that then bandwidth isn't an issue.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Bret Clark <bcl...@spectraaccess.com> 
wrote:
> Can you go to a bigger channel size? Are the CPE's running any form of 
QoS?
>
> On 09/13/2010 01:43 PM, Steve Barnes wrote:
>
> At peak times I am running about 4-6M 95th percentile on this one AP.
>
>
>
> Steve Barnes
>
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:34 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Taking the plunge
>
>
>
> What kind of bandwidth are you pushing through the ap now?
>
> On Sep 13, 2010 1:32 PM, "Steve Barnes" <st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
>
> All my APs are Mikrotik. My CPE's are a mix of Tranzeo and UBNT.   I have 
a
> AP with 58 Clients on it and starting to get complaints about slowdowns.
> They are all setup 10 MHz channel 802.11g.  This is a tower that due to
> contractual issues I cannot add anymore equipment.  So I am considering
> taking down the Mikrotik and 120 degree sector and putting up a UBNT 
Rocket
> and Airmax 120 sector.  It will take time to physically switch all my
> clients to new UBNT Airmax equipment but would like to get it done 
before
> the snow flies.
>
>
>
> Has anyone down this?  Success?  I know I cannot turn on Airmax till
> everyone is on the UBNT with that capability but does it work fine till 
you
> get it on?
>
>
>
> Steve Barnes
>
> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
>
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