You can *probably* do full tables on a pair of 1941's or 2900 Series Cisco's these days. With a pair of 1 U routers using VRRP or HSRP, you should be good to go.
John On 11/2/2010 11:14 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: > Actually, answered own question... Saw picts on Google. > > Pretty sweet switch/router (12000 series), as long as its not sitting in an > Equinix cage at $50/ 1U / month. Probably would costs $500-$700/mon to colo. > > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Travis Johnson"<t...@ida.net> > To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 11:37 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS > > >> Tom, >> >> I agree that Linux works very well as a router, but it still doesn't >> compare to a dedicated hardware platform (like Cisco) that was built >> from the ground up to do nothing but routing. We purchased a used Cisco >> 12008 router about 1.5 years ago off ebay. They are very, very cheap... >> the only downside is they are BIG and require 240VAC. But it's way cool >> to pull the CPU card while the router is moving 500Mbps of traffic and >> have it not even miss a single ping (due to the redundant CPU card). >> Same goes for the route fabric card. ;) >> >> We use Mikrotik for our inside "core" router and this big Cisco for our >> border router to our BGP upstreams. I have slept very well for the last >> 1.5 years knowing everything in the box is fully redundant (CPU, route, >> power, etc.). :) >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> >> On 11/2/2010 9:04 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote: >>> Note: Quagga has been very reliable for quite some time now. Imagestream >>> and >>> Vyatta both use Quagga. Both are great choices for BGP routers. >>> >>> I personally use Mandrake (Mandriva) Linux with a slew of custom >>> modifications that we have made, loaded on SuperMicro, and then use >>> latest >>> Quagga. >>> That has worked well for us, the last 5 years. (although, I dont >>> recommend >>> that to someone, until they are vastly familiar with their distro of >>> Linux. >>> Last thing you want to do is use your BGP router for a Guinee Pig Science >>> project, rebooting it all the time to test script changes.) But once you >>> are >>> comfortable with your Distro, it works well. >>> >>> There are a million arguements "for" and "against" Cisco versus Linux, to >>> be >>> used for the ISPs' average NOC/POP router/switch. I dont dispute any of >>> the >>> arguements. But one area where I believe Linux stands tall, is as a CORE >>> BGP >>> router. A core BGP router can be one of the more simplistic configured >>> routers because it only really needs to perform one function, BGP routing >>> to >>> its connected peers. For BGP there are two critical needs.... Fast >>> processors and Lots of RAM. In todays world there is no excuse to not >>> have >>> both of those. The problem with Cisco is that it lacks both, unless you >>> pay >>> big bucks. Linux on the other hand has an abundance of both, when >>> combined >>> with PC-Like hardware. >>> >>> I laugh at my competitors, when they say, "oh no, BGP reset, had to >>> reload >>> BGP tables, now there is latency for like 3 minutes or compromised >>> routing >>> for that period" or "got a route problem, the small prefixes aren't in my >>> tables". . On Linux, if you want to restart BGP, well thats like 1 second >>> to >>> reload tables. And no need to drop any routes, unless you want to. You >>> could >>> have Full routes with like 30 peers from a single router, if you wanted >>> to. >>> You can load up Linux with like 32 NICs (qty8 4port GIG NICs) in a 2U >>> case, >>> if you want to, and dont even need a Switch. (Although new will cost you >>> about $430 per 4port PCI-E Gig NIC). >>> >>> Tom DeReggi >>> RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kristian Hoffmann"<kh...@fire2wire.com> >>> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 8:37 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 18:52 -0500, Scott Lambert wrote: >>>> >>>>> I still need to try a Vyatta system. >>>> I loathe the idea of managing a *nix distro on a router (which is why we >>>> use RouterOS now). Apparently I've had too much Tik-aid, because I had >>>> completely forgotten about Vyatta and similar options. >>>> >>>> I have a SuperMicro 5015A-H (Atom 330 dual-core) coming in tomorrow. >>>> I'm going to try RouterOS and Vyatta and see how BGP responds on each >>>> with a single feed. If anyone else has an x86-based distro they'd like >>>> to see performance on, let me know. >>>> >>>> And thanks for all the responses. The information has been very >>>> helpful. Unfortunately, the conclusion I came to is "I have no idea >>>> what I'm going to do." Cisco = $$$ and MikroTik = coin flip. Hopefully >>>> Vyatta lands somewhere in the middle. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> -Kristian >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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