Wait, you had ANY problem and MT told you to upgrade? No.... ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com
On 11/2/2010 10:39 AM, Brad Belton wrote: > Agreed. Breaking about once a month or possibly even more frequently than > that is what we started to see with one of our v3.30 BGP routers. This was > after flawless performance for many, many months. This is why we initially > felt it might be a hardware issue. > > MikroTik Support response was simply to upgrade to current version (v4.11), > so we did. That was about 50-60days ago I think? Since then the router > hasn't had any trouble, so we're feeling pretty good about it. If it > happens again or the hardware is/was the issue and it ultimately fails; we > have an exact matching router racked up right beneath it ready to go. > Eventually we may have Butch help us setup VRRP or some other method to tie > the two routers together and keep both routers running all the time. > > We bring in multiple upstream GigE feeds from diverse geographical locations > into our network, so losing a BGP router doesn't necessarily mean the > network goes down...we just lose that particular peering point. > > Best, > > > Brad > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:44 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS > > This is exactly what I am concerned with..... > Things breaking once in a while is not an issue.. > Things breaking once every month or few weeks is not going to be acceptable > from our users.. > > Trying to determine if this is a 'feature' or a short term 'bug'. > > Cisco's and Junipers, get a premium even in the used market place, but the > primary reason for it is stability... > > Any other that can chime in with their experiences ? > > Many thanks in advance. > > > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet& Telecom > > > On 11/2/2010 10:32 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >> Our MikroTik BGP router keeps crashing about once every month or >> so...sometimes sooner, sometimes later. We are using full BGP tables >> and 4.11 currently. >> >> Regards, >> >> Chuck >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Brad Belton<b...@belwave.com> wrote: >>> We've been running BGP with MikroTik for quite some time now. It >>> hasn't been flawless by any stretch, but ever since late v2.8 or >>> early v2.9 we haven't had much trouble with it. We running v3.30 on >>> two routers with two full feeds each and a third running v4.11 with >>> two full feeds. All of these routers have a handful of downstream >>> BGP peers that we are also delivering full tables to. >>> >>> So far I think v4.11 might be the best, but we don't have as much >>> time on that version as we do with v3.30. The only reason we moved >>> one of our routers from v3.30 to v4.11 was because we had an unusual >>> hang with that particular router. We weren't sure if it was hardware >>> or OS related, however moving it to v4.11 seems to have resolved the >>> problem. (knock on >>> wood) >>> >>> Bottom line is given the price of a beefy MikroTik router vs. buying >>> an Imagestream or Cisco that is equivalent we can have hot standby >>> spares on hand and still be thousands if not tens of thousands of >>> dollars ahead. That coupled with building a network that isn't >>> solely dependent on any single point of failure further reduces the > crisis when a core router fails. >>> Things break...doesn't matter if MikroTik, ImageStream, Cisco or Juniper >>> makes it. ALL things break eventually, so plan for it! >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> Brad >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 9:11 AM >>> To: n...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS >>> >>> Hi Nick, >>> >>> How stable has the Mikrotik been running full BGP with the two providers > ? >>> (I read about a memory leak issues, is that why you are using 5.0rc1 >>> ?) We have been considering getting a Mikrotik for such use. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet& Telecom >>> >>> On 11/2/2010 9:21 AM, Nick Olsen wrote: >>>> We have two full tables running on mikrotik, in two different locations. >>>> >>>> Running that command >>>> /ip route print count-only where bgp-as-path="1234" >>>> Replacing the AS with "33363" (local cable company). >>>> Doesn't work on either of our routers for some reason (MT 5.0rc1 or > 4.4). >>>> Our router running a core 2 2.93ghz can take two full feeds gets all >>>> the routes in about 4 seconds, And cpu load is idle about 13 seconds >>> later. >>>> However making changes with routing filters take anywhere from >>>> 10seconds to 2 minutes depending on what its doing. >>>> >>>> >>>> Nick Olsen >>>> Network Operations >>>> (855) FLSPEED x106 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> *From*: "Kristian Hoffmann"<kh...@fire2wire.com> >>>> *Sent*: Friday, October 29, 2010 11:50 AM >>>> *To*: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >>>> *Subject*: [WISPA] Full BGP on RouterOS >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Does anyone have 1-2 full BGP routing tables on a MikroTik router? >>>> If so, what kind of hardware are you running. I'm testing a single >>>> feed on a P3 800. It loads the routes fine, and seems to handle the >>>> routes in stride (all 328659 of them), until you start poking at the >>>> routing table like... >>>> >>>> /ip route print count-only where bgp-as-path="1234" >>>> >>>> An AS that yielded 500 routes took 1-2 minutes at 100% CPU to complete. >>>> Is this "normal" these days, or is significantly greater hardware in >>>> order? I used to have a full feed on a Cisco 3640. It took 5-10 >>>> minutes to load all of the routes after a reload, and it was almost >>>> impossible to log in, high packet loss, etc. during that time. >>>> >>>> So, should it take 10 seconds on real hardware, or is this type of >>>> query always slow? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Kristian Hoffmann >>>> System Administrator >>>> kh...@fire2wire.com >>>> http://www.fire2wire.com >>>> >>>> Office - 209-543-1800 | Fax - 209-545-1469 | Toll Free - >>>> 800-905-FIRE >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> ---------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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