On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Tom DeReggi <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> wrote: > Sounds like Tsunami/Linx equivellent, running DSSS using most of the band to > deliver a few T1s. > The carriers use unlicenced for the same reason we do. They sub it out to a > contractor, and then the contractor comes up with a solution that takes the > least planning. > Dont take it personally, the carriers usually dont use the Spectrum hogg > gear to hurt you, instead they use it for selfish reasons. They figure use > the protocol that require the least SNR so they minimize the risk of others > can step on them. I hate that.
Whoa back up. Sorry, I am not taking it personally, or at least not to very much. Poor joke mixed in with a bit of wishful thinking. > > One option is that you can deploy licensed wireless, and then go to the > cellular company and try to sell them a more reliable circuit, maybe even at > a discount. As soon as I can buy some Ubnt 3.65 gear I will be. An no, no one on those towers will be buying from me (because I am to small a fish and really do have little interest in them, since I can not meet various performance goals like X hour response time 24/7/365. I am one persona here) > ONe thing that you might be able to use to your advantage is..... Often the > big carrier deploys unlicensed with the mentality that because its > unlicensed that they dont have to tell anyone at the tower, or license that > specific freq with teh tower owner. Meaning, they may not have the right to > use that spectrum at the tower nailed down. So you might be able to license > the use of that spectrum at the site, if you try. They likely are only > protected by a first in non-interference clause, if they listed the > ubnlicensed gear in their tower agreement. > You might be able to re-use the spectrum if you give your self about a 100ft > of seperation. No way will I get that. Tower owner gets around 60K/mo from 4 towers and the subleases. My talks to get up there are pretty much stalled at "oh you can't start off with 10K/mo? Don't call me again" > > I guess my point is.... Dont assume that The cellular carrier who owns the > gear is the one that you have to negotiate with. Thats not necessarilly a > given. True, but I have to contact them to find out who is the right person. > > Remember, interference can be bi-directional. And you ahve the ability to > interfere with them if you also use inefficient technology. That always > creates some leverage for everyone to play nice togeather. True in most cases. I think in this one, they are running illegal, or I have not truely pinned the right source (snow has made doing a better survey dangerous). The scan that shows the signal is aimed to a tower that is 7060 feet east of where the interference is coming from, and 1300ft low in elevation. I have not been able to get on the metal roof (10/12 and snow) and re-aim to see if i can tune it out. No mater where in town I drove, if I aimed at the towers on the hill, I had this signal very strong and clear. I have a airmax link that its obliterating. I am going to edge as close to it as I can and keep my performance acceptable. This might make the people move, it might not. I am also going to put in a par of 2.4ghz airmax units and see how that plays out. I only need 20mbit to the site for now. > > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeromie Reeves" <jree...@18-30chat.net> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:34 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact > > >>I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO >> have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band >> it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even >> airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some >> UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe >> if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away). >> >> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton <c...@midcoast.com> wrote: >>> Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why >>> they don't go licensed. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Cameron Kilton >>> >>> On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: >>>> Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have >>>> some towers here that are now sitting all over the<5755 making it >>>> totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to >>>> try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to? >>>> >>>> Jeromie >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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