Put up an AP using StarOS and "noisebuster" mode nearby on an overlapping channel. Watch their 5.8 backhaul magically disappear and be replaced by something else within a fairly short period of time.
Problem solved. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 11/9/2010 10:56 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Tom DeReggi<wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net> wrote: >> Sounds like Tsunami/Linx equivellent, running DSSS using most of the band to >> deliver a few T1s. >> The carriers use unlicenced for the same reason we do. They sub it out to a >> contractor, and then the contractor comes up with a solution that takes the >> least planning. >> Dont take it personally, the carriers usually dont use the Spectrum hogg >> gear to hurt you, instead they use it for selfish reasons. They figure use >> the protocol that require the least SNR so they minimize the risk of others >> can step on them. I hate that. > Whoa back up. Sorry, I am not taking it personally, or at least not to > very much. Poor joke mixed in with a bit of wishful thinking. > >> One option is that you can deploy licensed wireless, and then go to the >> cellular company and try to sell them a more reliable circuit, maybe even at >> a discount. > As soon as I can buy some Ubnt 3.65 gear I will be. An no, no one on > those towers will be buying from me (because I am to small a fish and > really do have little interest in them, since I can not meet various > performance goals like X hour response time 24/7/365. I am one > persona here) > >> ONe thing that you might be able to use to your advantage is..... Often the >> big carrier deploys unlicensed with the mentality that because its >> unlicensed that they dont have to tell anyone at the tower, or license that >> specific freq with teh tower owner. Meaning, they may not have the right to >> use that spectrum at the tower nailed down. So you might be able to license >> the use of that spectrum at the site, if you try. They likely are only >> protected by a first in non-interference clause, if they listed the >> ubnlicensed gear in their tower agreement. >> You might be able to re-use the spectrum if you give your self about a 100ft >> of seperation. > No way will I get that. Tower owner gets around 60K/mo from 4 towers > and the subleases. My talks to get up there are pretty much stalled at > "oh you can't start off with 10K/mo? Don't call me again" > >> I guess my point is.... Dont assume that The cellular carrier who owns the >> gear is the one that you have to negotiate with. Thats not necessarilly a >> given. > True, but I have to contact them to find out who is the right person. > >> Remember, interference can be bi-directional. And you ahve the ability to >> interfere with them if you also use inefficient technology. That always >> creates some leverage for everyone to play nice togeather. > True in most cases. I think in this one, they are running illegal, or > I have not truely pinned the right source (snow has made doing a > better survey dangerous). > > The scan that shows the signal is aimed to a tower that is 7060 feet > east of where the interference is coming from, and 1300ft low in > elevation. I have not been able to get on the metal roof (10/12 and > snow) and re-aim to see if i can tune it out. No mater where in town I > drove, if I aimed at the towers on the hill, I had this signal very > strong and clear. I have a airmax link that its obliterating. I am > going to edge as close to it as I can and keep my performance > acceptable. This might make the people move, it might not. I am also > going to put in a par of 2.4ghz airmax units and see how that plays > out. I only need 20mbit to the site for now. > >> >> Tom DeReggi >> RapidDSL& Wireless, Inc >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jeromie Reeves"<jree...@18-30chat.net> >> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:34 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact >> >> >>> I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO >>> have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band >>> it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even >>> airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some >>> UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe >>> if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away). >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton<c...@midcoast.com> wrote: >>>> Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why >>>> they don't go licensed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Cameron Kilton >>>> >>>> On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote: >>>>> Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have >>>>> some towers here that are now sitting all over the<5755 making it >>>>> totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to >>>>> try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to? >>>>> >>>>> Jeromie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>>> >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>>> >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>> >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> No virus found in this message. >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>> Version: 10.0.1153 / Virus Database: 424/3247 - Release Date: 11/09/10 >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> http://signup.wispa.org/ >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
