I never ever install any updates automatically, even critical updates.
If you are not running in a virtual environment the recommendation is to do
a backup of the OP system before any updates. This is for machines which
are not clustered or have a spare. I have seen too many times where an
update was pulled hours or even a day after it was released due to major
issues with the software.
There have been ³holy wars² over *nix vs windows vs whatever else over
the years. My philosophy is use the tool you are most comfortable with. If
that tool can¹t do the job then you need to learn a different tool or hire
someone who knows it.
I have seen Windows admins which run a solid and secure ship. Same for
*nix. I personally am a mainly Linux guy, but that¹s because it¹s free. I
have more access to something free.
We had this discussion in a previous life when I was a network admin for
a large school corporation. The argument was we paid for support with the
Windows servers. Instead of spending 2 hours combing the Internet we simply
called Microsoft. Lots of arguments for both sides.
Justin
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From: Scott Reed <sr...@nwwnet.net>
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 14:14:41 -0500
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems
So why do you have auto-update turned on? Why do you allow it to reboot
the machine?
This doesn't sound as much like a Windows issue as a SysAdmin issue.
I have run a data center for a Fortune 100 company. We did a huge
amount of real-time data collection using Windows applications to gather
and Oracle on Unix to store. Can't say that we spent more time with one
platform than the other.
On 12/7/2010 1:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> I'm sure many share my experience, similarly or identically.
>
> I have several Linux servers (http, monitoring, mysql/php, etc).
> Never an issue with any of them.
>
> One Windows server - for ONLY Quickbooks. I have issues with it at
> least once a week. Updates reboot it and configuration is lost.
> Rights to add a printer for the CPA. Rights for IE's security
> permissions. Disk filled up with 10 gigabytes of Windows junk
> (updates I'm guessing). It's just a mess.
>
> Defend Windows as much as you want, but you can't deny Windows servers
> tend to cost more time.
>
> Josh Luthman
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>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Steve Barnes<st...@pcswin.com> wrote:
>> Very Well Said Mark Nash. All servers, OS, and software have a learning
Curve. I know nothing of Linux. Not because the desire is not there, the time
isn't. There are things that I could manage better with a few free apps and
Linux servers. But to this point at<700 clients I haven't needed it and I will
be looking into that in the future.
>>
>>
>> Steve Barnes
>> RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:04 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Backend systems
>>
>> Nice Shane... How about a server with no NIC. Now THAT would be a secure
server, mostly. But what if a user got to the keyboard? Pull the power supply,
now they'll surely not be able to break in... WAIT!
>> There's still data on the hard drive! Better erase that...
>>
>> Dude, this is meant to be in jest, and to make a point. I don't currently
run any Windows servers due to the engineer that we had in our office (which we
now don't have so we have to rely on outside consultants for Linux expertise).
But I ran on them for the first 7 years with our mail server, web server, DNS
servers, etc.
>>
>> Anyway...
>>
>> Flame on about Windows servers, people, but the small business world runs on
them. For those of you who own your WISPs and don't know anything about
servers, don't listen to sensational hype. Take a sensible and tactical
approach and do what's right for your business.
>> Any server is just a tool. Pluses& minuses. You have to do a cost/benefit
analysis with a server just as you would which kind of radio to use in the
field, or who to hire to answer your phones.
>>
>> On 12/7/2010 7:47 AM, Shane MacDonald wrote:
>>> I get scared when I hear "Windows" and "Software" in the same sentence.
>>> Then when you add "Server" I usually run.
>>>
>>> Shane MacDonald
>>> KP Performance Antennas
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7-Dec-10, at 8:11 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote:
>>>
>>>> We used Rodopi. If you can handle the fact that its Windows and
>>>> ASP.NET and MSSQL server, its OK. It works very well and very
>>>> configurable. We had it set up on Windows Small Business Server,
>>>> that is the version with MSSQL server.
>>>>
>>>> For what its worth.
>>>>
>>>> --Curtis
>>>>
>>
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