I think it just falls to unsync'd

- Jerry

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS 
Question


Am I right in guessing that higher latency will only cause some interference 
issues, nothing catastrophic?
On Jan 10, 2011 11:54 AM, "Jerry Richardson" 
<jrichard...@aircloud.com<mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com>> wrote:
> Right, allows sync between GROUPS. GROUPS can be as large as you want as long 
> as the MASTER can be reached via Layer2 in less than 30ms. If you have two 
> GROUPS (for example two tower sites) that can hear each other but can't be 
> reached via Layer2 or latency goes above 30ms between them, then the MASTERS 
> at both towers will need to have fixed DL%
>
> UBNT's GPS implementation is a little different than we are used to, but I 
> like that they did away with the CMM concept. I am not sure I like the ide of 
> depending on one radio for MASTER sync information. I would like to see some 
> code that allows for failover. Something like:
> - APRadio1 is MASTER/MASTER
> - APRadio2 is SLAVE/MASTER
>
> The rest of the SLAVES in the group look at APRadio11 for sync info and if 
> it's not there look at APRadioMAC2
>
> - Jerry
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 9:40 AM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS 
> Question
>
> Ubiquiti's next software release is supposed to have dynamic ratios with sync.
>
>
>
>
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> Mike Hammett
>
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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> On 1/10/2011 11:25 AM, Jerry Richardson wrote:
> Yes, with wifi based radio systems you can see less throughput with sync than 
> without.
>
> With Canopy the DL% is fixed regardless if the AP is getting the sync pulse 
> from GPS or generating it itself. i.e. if you set the DL% to 75% it's fixed 
> regardless if the bandwidth is being used or not.
>
> With .11 radios the DL% is dynamic and will adjust according to demand (which 
> is why they are NOT in sync with other .11 radios). When you sync them, the 
> DL is no longer dynamic. So if you had a .11-based BH that has 90% downlink 
> traffic and force it to sync the DL% may only be 50% which would look like 
> half.
>
> Does that help?
>
> - Jerry
>
> From: 
> wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>
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> Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 7:31 AM
> To: 
> sc...@brevardwireless.com<mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com><mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com<mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>>;
>  WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] GPS Sync / or Sync between devices at site without GPS 
> Question
>
> I do not know how the Radwin Sync works. With Canopy, you do not lose 
> bandwidth unless you do not have the timing the same. You can adjust settings 
> in such a way as to not step on yourself and still have different bandwidth 
> profiles with Canopy.
>
> I do not see why sync would lose any bandwidth, unless it is cause now you 
> only have X Transit tie and Y receive tie instead of X+%Y.
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Scott Carullo 
> <sc...@brevardwireless.com<mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com><mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com<mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com>>>
>  wrote:
> For the first time I synchronized multiple devices (two backhauls) at a tower 
> site to see what it was all about. All of our gear in the past did not have 
> the capability to sync across devices to save spectrum and/or reduce 
> interference between local devices.
>
> In this case I used two Radwin 2000C backhauls with a sync cable between 
> them. Setting up the sync between them was easy however the first thing I 
> noticed was that the available bandwidth was cut in half. Is this typical of 
> all synced units? I guess there would be no more reduction in speed after the 
> first two radios synced because if there were more they would all fire at the 
> same time any way. Did I loose bandwidth because they were in MIMO mode 
> rather than Diversity mode or is the slowdown just a function of the timing 
> reduction to keep things clean?
>
> Is the UBNT GPS sync gear going to provide less throughput than I currently 
> experience when their new sync capable gear comes out?
>
> Thanks, just trying to get some feedback to learn more about how Syncing 
> devices affects their performance.
> Scott Carullo
> Technical Operations
> 855-FLSPEED x102
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