Ditto here!

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:

> I didn't say that, but it is well known.
>
> Second, Connect Kentucky came to me and asked us to be a partner to Connect
> Kentucky.  I said sure, send over the paperwork.  It was a minimum $10k to
> be listed on the associates part.  $50k to be a partner.  Do they honestly
> think I can afford either?  Guess who was partners? HughesNet, WildBlue,
> Bellsouth (AT&T), Time Warner, Windstream, Insight... so when a customer in
> my area called them to see about access, even though I fully cooperated with
> CK, went to EVERY meeting, provided them with full mapping data and showed
> them how to use Radio Mobile, they referred them to HughesNet or WildBlue.
>  They knew I had that area covered, it was very blatant, but because I
> didn't pay them the money, they referred them to an inferior product,
> satellite service.  They were provided with MILLIONS!!! to do mapping for
> Kentucky.  The maps they did were immediately removed and taken offline as
> soon as their funding ran out.  It was done in spite of the Kentucky
> Government.  The TAX PAYERS OWN THAT DATA, and they stole it from us all.
>  Guess what happened another year later?  Another company was hired to do
> THAT EXACT SAME MAPPING again, and yes, they got MILLIONS again.
>
> I tried MULTIPLE times to work with them, and MANY MANY MANY open ended
> promised were made by them.
>
> None of this is opinion, it's all FACT.  Ask MANY MANY MANY people around
> the US that are under a Connect program.  Most will show their displeasure.
>
> Regards,
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 2:41 PM, David Hannum <oujas...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Chuck said: "It is well known that CN is a marketing and lobbying front
>> for the Bells."
>> I would agree with that it is a well known "opinion" by many on this
>> list.  However, from what we've seen, they lobby as much, if not more, for
>> independent companies like most of us are.  They lobby for Broadband in
>> general - they don't play favorites at the high level.  However, they have
>> some very knowledgible, dedicated wireless guys.  And if you work very much
>> with them, you'd see that wireles is all those guys are about.
>>
>> Dave Hannum
>> New Era Broadband, LLC
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Fred Goldstein 
>> <fgoldst...@ionary.com>wrote:
>>
>>> At 1/15/2011 08:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>> >You know at the time I saw the email, I was surprised.  However,
>>> >nobody on this list knows about the joke of a deal CN is like Rick and
>>> >I do.  After the millions of dollars in tax revenue and all this
>>> >mapping, that public information was removed from their website.
>>> >Millions of tax paying dollars down the drain.  Because of the
>>> >potential WISPA problems, I won't tell you how I really feel.
>>>
>>> I'm not a member (yet) so take that as a disclaimer.  This is the
>>> public forum, not official correspondence.
>>>
>>> It is well known that CN is a marketing and lobbying front for the
>>> Bells.  Bob's satire was harmless, reflective of their value to
>>> independent ISPs, wireless and otherwise.  If CN is whinging, let
>>> them, because it hit home.
>>>
>>> Bob's contributions have at times been a high point of this
>>> list.  Not everything has to be somber.
>>>
>>> >On Saturday, January 15, 2011, Josh Luthman
>>> ><j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>> > > The problem was the lack of maturity and how bad the content
>>> > makes WISPA look.
>>> > > We have our opinions.  We are people.  But we, as adults and
>>> > businesses or representatives, need too display a level of advancement.
>>>
>>>  --
>>>  Fred Goldstein    k1io   fgoldstein "at" ionary.com
>>>  ionary Consulting              http://www.ionary.com/
>>>  +1 617 795 2701
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