OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any.... - Jerry
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz? On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, "Jerry Richardson" <jrichard...@aircloud.com<mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com>> wrote: > What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks? > > > > - Jerry > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On > Behalf Of Cameron Crum > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? > > Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link > for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something > costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard > sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate. > > Cameron > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini > <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>> > wrote: > What about below$6k? > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > 787.273.4143<tel:787.273.4143> > From: > wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>> > > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>] > On Behalf Of Cameron Crum > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM > > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? > > $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more you > can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite the > bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is not > that much if I have to finance the link. > > Cameron > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini > <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>> > wrote: > Yes short hops... whats your price range for "pricey" > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > 787.273.4143<tel:787.273.4143> > From: > wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>> > > [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>] > On Behalf Of Cameron Crum > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM > > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ? > > I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain > fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short > hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey. > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein > <fgoldst...@ionary.com<mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com><mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com<mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com>>> > wrote: > At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: > I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed > band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 > ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft > dish, I guess you are pretty limited. > > Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz > 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, > rather fun... > > But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run > afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but > it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the > maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the > formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 dB) > output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. (Values > are from memory, not precise.) > > Cameron > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini > <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>> > wrote: > There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the other > is not > > -- > Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein "at" > ionary.com<http://ionary.com><http://ionary.com> > ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ > +1 617 795 2701<tel:%2B1%20617%20795%202701> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! 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