Adam, a SAF CFIP 106 could fit your needs too

Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Adam Greene
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 11:36 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?

Guys,

I appreciate all the feedback. We're looking into Exalt 24GHz for a 3-mile 
link. Not sure if it will reach that far ...

Anyone have direct experience with Exalt? We're using Dragonwave and love it, 
but wanted to stay in the $5k - $7k range on this one ... only need 50M FD at 
the moment ...

Thanks,
Adam


On 7/29/2011 7:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

20 mhz with nv2 might get you upwards of 50 or 60 megs, I am guessing.
On Jul 29, 2011 6:54 PM, "Jerry Richardson" 
<jrichard...@aircloud.com<mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com>> wrote:
> OK, now just need to find 40MHz of spectrum. Oh wait, there isn't any....
>
> - Jerry
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:52 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
>
>
> ARC panel and nv2 in 40mhz?
> On Jul 29, 2011 6:48 PM, "Jerry Richardson" 
> <jrichard...@aircloud.com<mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com><mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com<mailto:jrichard...@aircloud.com>>>
>  wrote:
>> What would you use to put together a 100Mbps FDX link for 500 bucks?
>>
>>
>>
>> - Jerry
>>
>> From: 
>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>
>>  
>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>]
>>  On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 12:22 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
>>
>> Licensed or unlic? If unlic, still no. I can put together an unlicensed link 
>> for for less than $500 that will probably perform as well as something 
>> costing $6000, and for another $500 I could have redundancy. I'd be a hard 
>> sell to get me to pay for something like that. Maybe I'm just a cheap skate.
>>
>> Cameron
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Gino Villarini 
>> <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>>>
>>  wrote:
>> What about below$6k?
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143<tel:787.273.4143>
>> From: 
>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>>
>>  
>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>>]
>>  On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:11 PM
>>
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
>>
>> $8000 is expensive to me for an unlicensed frequency. For just a bit more 
>> you can get licensed. If I'm getting out of the $100s range then I'll bite 
>> the bullet and go all the way. The difference between $8000 and $12000 is 
>> not that much if I have to finance the link.
>>
>> Cameron
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Gino Villarini 
>> <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>>>
>>  wrote:
>> Yes short hops... whats your price range for "pricey"
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>> g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> 787.273.4143<tel:787.273.4143>
>> From: 
>> wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>>
>>  
>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org><mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>>]
>>  On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
>> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 2:58 PM
>>
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] inexpensive non-2.4/5.8 backhaul ?
>>
>> I'm aware of all that, but 24GHz still attenuates fairly quickly and rain 
>> fade will be a problem if you try to go too far. It would be good for short 
>> hops, though. It still seems a bit pricey.
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Fred Goldstein 
>> <fgoldst...@ionary.com<mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com><mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com<mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com>><mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com<mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com><mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com<mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com>>>>
>>  wrote:
>> At 7/29/2011 02:38 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>> I just assumed if you pay that much for a link it would be in the licensed 
>> band. Still though, I can't imagine too many people using the unlicensed 24 
>> ghz band, It should be pretty clear, but if you can't bgo bigger than a 2ft 
>> dish, I guess you are pretty limited.
>>
>> Directivity increases with frequency, for a given dish size, so a 24 GHz 
>> 2-foot dish is as directive as a 6 GHz 8-foot dish. Aiming should be, well, 
>> rather fun...
>>
>> But the rules are a little weird, so a bigger antenna would probably run 
>> afoul of the field strength limit. 24 GHz doesn't specify a power level, but 
>> it requires at least a 1-foot dish (33 dB gain) for directivity, and the 
>> maximum field strength is 2.5 v/m at 3 meters. I don't offhand know the 
>> formula for converting that to ERP. But the Exalt has a 10 milliwatt (+10 
>> dB) output which would mean an ERP of around 20 watts with a 1-foot dish. 
>> (Values are from memory, not precise.)
>>
>> Cameron
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Gino Villarini 
>> <g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com><mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>>>
>>  wrote:
>> There are 2 24 ghz blocks available for MW links, one is unlicensed the 
>> other is not
>>
>> --
>> Fred Goldstein k1io fgoldstein "at" 
>> ionary.com<http://ionary.com><http://ionary.com><http://ionary.com>
>> ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/
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