One additional note - we found American Tower much much easier to deal with
than a local village was when we were trying to get on their water tower.
We will probably not pursue water towers any more.


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote:

> We just completed a lease with american tower. Overall they were very
> reasonable to work with, although it did take several months to go through
> the process the first time.  I can share details of pricing off list, but
> the range of $400-700 is what we are seeing in this area depending on the
> tower. They have a couple base WISP packages and equipment above that costs
> additional per month. They do offer promos on under-utilized towers. We did
> take the step pricing on the lease to reduce the initial cost by $100/mo
> and increase it $50/year - same overall cost in the end. There is some
> additional cost in insurance and tower training , to meet their
> requirements that most WISP will not already have. If you are going to do
> this and need to get tower trained and increase insurance, it probably
> makes sense to do more than just one cell phone tower, otherwise that cost
> makes it much more expensive.
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Tim Reichhart <
> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote:
>
>> Mike
>> see with these municipalities going have to realize that WISP ARE NOT
>> Cell Phone companies and are NOT going to pay 2500+ per month for space on
>> there water towers. I ran into that with my village what they did was call
>> an other village/city that is 8 miles way from the village and the city
>> mayor told them or showed them the contract that sprint was paying them for
>> one water tower which was like 2500 dollars. So I got smart and contacted
>> the city mayor and I asked about the rent from an local WISP was paying the
>> city for the other water tower they have and the local WISP was only paying
>> them 100 dollars an month for rent. So you got to watch out about these
>> municipalities try to screw you over on rent because they automatically
>> think your an cell phone company and not an internet service provider.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Date: 05/23/14 06:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>>
>> Some municipalities work very well on rent. I have at least six whose
>> rent totals three figures. Others want $2,500/month+ each...  because
>> that's what AT&T or Verizon paid.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>  *From:* "Tim Reichhart" <timreichh...@hometowncable.net>
>> *To:* "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2014 2:19:51 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>>
>> Brian
>> when you say they " do graduated rent increase" what do you mean by that?
>> because alot of times its cheaper to rent space from village on there water
>> towers or build your own for that 600-1000 per month from American Tower
>> Co.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Brian Webster" <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Date: 05/23/14 12:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>>
>>  American Tower spoke at the Mid Atlantic WISA Conference last week.
>> They did say that rents are going to be location based, meaning that areas
>> where their tower may be the only game in town due to zoning restriction
>> you will pay more. If the tower is very rural and they don't have a lot or
>> requests for space on it (and in some areas the towers are actually empty)
>> they are much more willing to talk about lower rent. They did also mention
>> something about any fees being able to be billed over 12 months. They also
>> said that they have done deals where they do a graduated rent increase in
>> the first couple of years to give the WISP a break until they get a revenue
>> stream going on that site.
>>
>>
>>
>> While there will be a lot of WISP's who will say they can still build
>> their own towers cheaper, being able to use a major commercial tower
>> company in a way that is at least in the ballpark for a WISP business model
>> is a major leap in the right direction compared to years past.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Brian Webster
>>
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of* CBB - Jay Fuller
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2014 11:15 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For $750 / month and 4k startup i'll put up a tower and sell space on
>> it.  Geez.
>>
>> Can't even get rent here for that in some parts of town....
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> *From:*Zach Underwood <z...@zachunderwood.me>
>>
>> *To:*WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>
>> *Sent:*Friday, May 23, 2014 10:07 AM
>>
>> *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>>
>>
>>
>> Example. I got pricing from ATC for 200 foot of 250 foot tower in a in a
>> very well to do part of town for $750 mrc. Setup cost was $4k.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Gino Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> How pricing looked like?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:*Zach Underwood < z...@zachunderwood.me>
>> *Reply-To:* WISPA General List < wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Date:* Friday, May 23, 2014 at 10:50 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List < wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.americantower.com/corporateus/solutions/solutions-for-industries/wireless-internet-service-providers/index.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Adair Winter <
>> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>>
>> American tower, yes
>>
>> On May 23, 2014 9:42 AM, "Gino Villarini" < g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Who has the Wisp friendly program? American Towers?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gino A. Villarini
>>
>> President
>>
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>>
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