We did the install ourself. You do have to get certified as an authorized
climber with American Tower. Just insurance and training, mainly.


On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Tim Reichhart <
timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote:

> Mike n Chris
> but see the problem with these cell phone towers they will not allow you
> personally get on there towers you have to use there sub contractor to do
> all your equipment on there towers from one rep from american tower told me.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Date: 05/24/14 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>
> *nods*  They won't have the restricted hours a water tower has either.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------
>  *From:* "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com>
> *To:* "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:55:49 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>
> One additional note - we found American Tower much much easier to deal
> with than a local village was when we were trying to get on their water
> tower. We will probably not pursue water towers any more.
>
>
> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Chris Fabien < ch...@lakenetmi.com>wrote:
>
>> We just completed a lease with american tower. Overall they were very
>> reasonable to work with, although it did take several months to go through
>> the process the first time.  I can share details of pricing off list, but
>> the range of $400-700 is what we are seeing in this area depending on the
>> tower. They have a couple base WISP packages and equipment above that costs
>> additional per month. They do offer promos on under-utilized towers. We did
>> take the step pricing on the lease to reduce the initial cost by $100/mo
>> and increase it $50/year - same overall cost in the end. There is some
>> additional cost in insurance and tower training , to meet their
>> requirements that most WISP will not already have. If you are going to do
>> this and need to get tower trained and increase insurance, it probably
>> makes sense to do more than just one cell phone tower, otherwise that cost
>> makes it much more expensive.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Tim Reichhart <
>> timreichh...@hometowncable.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Mike
>>> see with these municipalities going have to realize that WISP ARE NOT
>>> Cell Phone companies and are NOT going to pay 2500+ per month for space on
>>> there water towers. I ran into that with my village what they did was call
>>> an other village/city that is 8 miles way from the village and the city
>>> mayor told them or showed them the contract that sprint was paying them for
>>> one water tower which was like 2500 dollars. So I got smart and contacted
>>> the city mayor and I asked about the rent from an local WISP was paying the
>>> city for the other water tower they have and the local WISP was only paying
>>> them 100 dollars an month for rent. So you got to watch out about these
>>> municipalities try to screw you over on rent because they automatically
>>> think your an cell phone company and not an internet service provider.
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Mike Hammett" < wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org>
>>>  Date: 05/23/14 06:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>>>
>>> Some municipalities work very well on rent. I have at least six whose
>>> rent totals three figures. Others want $2,500/month+ each...  because
>>> that's what AT&T or Verizon paid.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>  *From:* "Tim Reichhart" < timreichh...@hometowncable.net>
>>> *To:* "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2014 2:19:51 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> when you say they " do graduated rent increase" what do you mean by
>>> that? because alot of times its cheaper to rent space from village on there
>>> water towers or build your own for that 600-1000 per month from American
>>> Tower Co.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Brian Webster" < i...@wirelessmapping.com>
>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" < wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Date: 05/23/14 12:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>>>
>>>  American Tower spoke at the Mid Atlantic WISA Conference last week.
>>> They did say that rents are going to be location based, meaning that areas
>>> where their tower may be the only game in town due to zoning restriction
>>> you will pay more. If the tower is very rural and they don't have a lot or
>>> requests for space on it (and in some areas the towers are actually empty)
>>> they are much more willing to talk about lower rent. They did also mention
>>> something about any fees being able to be billed over 12 months. They also
>>> said that they have done deals where they do a graduated rent increase in
>>> the first couple of years to give the WISP a break until they get a revenue
>>> stream going on that site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While there will be a lot of WISP's who will say they can still build
>>> their own towers cheaper, being able to use a major commercial tower
>>> company in a way that is at least in the ballpark for a WISP business model
>>> is a major leap in the right direction compared to years past.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank You,
>>>
>>> Brian Webster
>>>
>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>
>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of* CBB - Jay Fuller
>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2014 11:15 AM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For $750 / month and 4k startup i'll put up a tower and sell space on
>>> it.  Geez.
>>>
>>> Can't even get rent here for that in some parts of town....
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> *From:*Zach Underwood <z...@zachunderwood.me>
>>>
>>> *To:*WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>
>>> *Sent:*Friday, May 23, 2014 10:07 AM
>>>
>>> *Subject:*Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Example. I got pricing from ATC for 200 foot of 250 foot tower in a in a
>>> very well to do part of town for $750 mrc. Setup cost was $4k.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Gino Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> How pricing looked like?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>
>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>>
>>> @aeronetpr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:*Zach Underwood < z...@zachunderwood.me>
>>> *Reply-To:* WISPA General List < wireless@wispa.org>
>>> *Date:* Friday, May 23, 2014 at 10:50 AM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List < wireless@wispa.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Wisp friendly Tower co's
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.americantower.com/corporateus/solutions/solutions-for-industries/wireless-internet-service-providers/index.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Adair Winter <
>>> ada...@amarillowireless.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> American tower, yes
>>>
>>> On May 23, 2014 9:42 AM, "Gino Villarini" < g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Who has the Wisp friendly program? American Towers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>>
>>> President
>>>
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>
>>> www.aeronetpr.com
>>>
>>> @aeronetpr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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