Good stuff!
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > *nods* Thank you much for the information. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Jaime Fink" <[email protected]> > *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 2:30:46 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released > > 4 for the same channel is our general recommendation for the integrated > antenna, angles will vary based on link power/distances, worst case is > about 85 +/- 5 degrees, if we're going for max performance. > > That doesn't limit colocation on the tower at 4, that number can go up > of course in different channels, and channel widths. > > We're finishing off a "colocation planner" in our cloud tools that > automates those answers for you based on your radio location link plans, > coming soon! > > Cheers, > > Jaime > > On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:12 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Thanks a bunch! > > So then is there a hard limit of 4 radios per location or is that just > best you could do with the integrated antenna model? > > Must there be an even distribution (every 90*)? I assume not, so what's > the minimum isolation? > > If I had 6' super high performance dishes, could I put more than 4 radios > up? Not that I'm likely to use dishes that big, but I do have towers with > four backhauls already and I would like some more in other directions. > > Just trying to figure out where the number four came from and how hard is > that number. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Jaime Fink" <[email protected]> > *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:38:12 PM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released > > Mike, > > Definitely wanted to clarify on your question/comment on colocation > capacities for the group. > > For the B5 backhaul PTP technology, colocation is in separate > directional paths, so 4 of the B5s can be colocated sharing the same > channels, but must be directionally coordinated, this leverages integrated > 1PPS GPS+GLONASS TDMA sync. > > As Fred pointed out nicely, the B5 has a fantastic aperture efficiency > integrated antenna that is about as clean as there is out there, and the RF > isolation techniques needed to get us to that performance. > > No magic pixie dust, just great technology. > > Looking to the future, for sharing the same antenna pattern/path, I > absolutely see these capacities, but that will more be leveraged for PTMP > beamforming and MU-MIMO technology shared across multiple clients. We’re on > public record about the work that we’re doing with our partner Quantenna on > their next generation technology they’ve announced for 2015 called 10G > Wi-Fi. You can imagine the amount of compute that takes, bordering more on > magic pixie dust! > > Cheers! > > > *Jaime Fink* • *Mimosa* • *Chief Product Officer* > 300 Orchard City Dr Ste 100 • Campbell • CA 95008 • www.mimosa.co > > This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole > use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or > disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended > recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the > sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message. > > > > On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >From a TechCrunch article: > > The B5 backhaul radio is a piece of hardware that uses multiple-input and > multiple-output (MIMO) technology to provide up to 16 streams and 4 Gbps of > output when multiple radios are using the same channel. > > Now I wonder if that is four radios on the same path? If so, that's pretty > amazing. > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Fred Goldstein" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:21:29 AM > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released > > On 8/5/2014 11:21 AM, Adair Winter wrote: > > I didn't want to be negative nelly this morning. But that was my thought > also.. > I'm moving as much as possible to licensed links because I can't hardly > keep my 5Ghz PtP's running out of my data center. > > > The 5 GHz band is getting quite crowded, but at least this new radio seems > to be efficient in how it uses the spectrum. Any of these U-NII radios > essentially transmits based on demand. If traffic is 10 Mbps and the link > is capable of 500 Mbps, it won't be on the air very much of the time. So > it doesn't need the frequency all to itself. We are doing a lot of urban > links and share the frequencies with all sorts of stuff, including "Cable > WiFi" (all over, even below 5250, ugh), but it doesn't kill performance, at > least for the type of moderate load applications (mostly cameras) we're > supporting on 5 GHz. > > We do most of the backhaul on higher frequencies but 5 GHz is sometimes > used as a backup to take over during rain fade. During the storm last week > that brought a tornado just a few subway stops from downtown Boston, we > even lost 11 GHz links for time. The rainfall was off the charts for the > second time in a month. But 5 Ghz links hardly noticed it. > > Also to Mimosa's credit, it comes with a 44 cm 25 dB dish, whose > narrowness helps with frequency reuse. It will probably produce a lot less > clutter than outdoor access points, or even some indoor access points that > use more power than necessary. (We put a NanoBridge 5G25 on a hilltop and > were able to pick up WLANs inside office towers four miles away.) And they > are petitioning the FCC to open up 10 GHz under Part 90 (light licensing, > like 3650). > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Matt Hoppes <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Oh dear.... so more backhauling noise on the 5GHz spectrum? >> >> AF5 + Mimosa.... >> >> >> >> Matt Hoppes >> Director of Information Technology >> Indigo Wireless >> +1 (570) 723-7312 >> >> On 8/5/14, 9:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: >> > Have to give them credit on the website. Nice look J >> > >> > >> > >> > *_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_**Author of "Learn >> > RouterOS- Second Edition >> > <http://www.wlan1.com/product_p/mikrotik%20book-2.htm>” >> > >> > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support >> > Services >> > >> > Office*: 314-735-0270 <tel:314-735-0270> *Website*: >> > http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> – *Skype*: >> > linktechs >> > <skype:linktechs?call> >> > */ /**/-- Create Wireless Coverage’s with /*www.towercoverage.com >> > <http://www.towercoverage.com/>*//*/–*900Mhz – LTE – 3G – 3.65 – TV >> > Whitespace */ >> > >> > >> > >> > *From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> > *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini >> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2014 7:49 AM >> > *To:* WISPA General List >> > *Subject:* [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released >> > >> > >> > >> > http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page.html >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Gino A. 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