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Matt Hoppes Director of Information Technology Indigo Wireless +1 (570) 723-7312 On 8/5/14, 3:36 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Jamie, > > We're incredibly excited by your announcement, and eagerly await PtMP ;) > > Josh Reynolds, CIO > SPITwSPOTS > www.spitwspots.com > > On 08/05/2014 11:30 AM, Jaime Fink wrote: >> 4 for the same channel is our general recommendation for the >> integrated antenna, angles will vary based on link power/distances, >> worst case is about 85 +/- 5 degrees, if we're going for max performance. >> >> That doesn't limit colocation on the tower at 4, that number can go up >> of course in different channels, and channel widths. >> >> We're finishing off a "colocation planner" in our cloud tools that >> automates those answers for you based on your radio location link >> plans, coming soon! >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jaime >> >> On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:12 PM, "Mike Hammett" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> Thanks a bunch! >>> >>> So then is there a hard limit of 4 radios per location or is that >>> just best you could do with the integrated antenna model? >>> >>> Must there be an even distribution (every 90*)? I assume not, so >>> what's the minimum isolation? >>> >>> If I had 6' super high performance dishes, could I put more than 4 >>> radios up? Not that I'm likely to use dishes that big, but I do have >>> towers with four backhauls already and I would like some more in >>> other directions. >>> >>> Just trying to figure out where the number four came from and how >>> hard is that number. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Jaime Fink" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:38:12 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released >>> >>> Mike, >>> >>> Definitely wanted to clarify on your question/comment on colocation >>> capacities for the group. >>> >>> For the B5 backhaul PTP technology, colocation is in separate >>> directional paths, so 4 of the B5s can be colocated sharing the same >>> channels, but must be directionally coordinated, this leverages >>> integrated 1PPS GPS+GLONASS TDMA sync. >>> >>> As Fred pointed out nicely, the B5 has a fantastic aperture >>> efficiency integrated antenna that is about as clean as there is out >>> there, and the RF isolation techniques needed to get us to that >>> performance. >>> >>> No magic pixie dust, just great technology. >>> >>> Looking to the future, for sharing the same antenna pattern/path, I >>> absolutely see these capacities, but that will more be leveraged for >>> PTMP beamforming and MU-MIMO technology shared across multiple >>> clients. We’re on public record about the work that we’re doing with >>> our partner Quantenna on their next generation technology they’ve >>> announced for 2015 called 10G Wi-Fi. You can imagine the amount of >>> compute that takes, bordering more on magic pixie dust! >>> >>> Cheers! >>> >>> >>> *Jaime Fink* • *Mimosa* • *Chief Product Officer* >>> 300 Orchard City Dr Ste 100 • Campbell • CA 95008 • www.mimosa.co >>> <http://www.mimosa.co> >>> >>> This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the >>> sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution >>> or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the >>> intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), >>> please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of >>> this message. >>> >>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> >From a TechCrunch article: >>> >>> The B5 backhaul radio is a piece of hardware that uses >>> multiple-input and multiple-output (MIMO) technology to provide >>> up to 16 streams and 4 Gbps of output when multiple radios are >>> using the same channel. >>> >>> Now I wonder if that is four radios on the same path? If so, >>> that's pretty amazing. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Fred Goldstein" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:21:29 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released >>> >>> On 8/5/2014 11:21 AM, Adair Winter wrote: >>> >>> I didn't want to be negative nelly this morning. But that was >>> my thought also.. >>> I'm moving as much as possible to licensed links because I >>> can't hardly keep my 5Ghz PtP's running out of my data center. >>> >>> >>> The 5 GHz band is getting quite crowded, but at least this new >>> radio seems to be efficient in how it uses the spectrum. Any of >>> these U-NII radios essentially transmits based on demand. If >>> traffic is 10 Mbps and the link is capable of 500 Mbps, it won't >>> be on the air very much of the time. So it doesn't need the >>> frequency all to itself. We are doing a lot of urban links and >>> share the frequencies with all sorts of stuff, including "Cable >>> WiFi" (all over, even below 5250, ugh), but it doesn't kill >>> performance, at least for the type of moderate load applications >>> (mostly cameras) we're supporting on 5 GHz. >>> >>> We do most of the backhaul on higher frequencies but 5 GHz is >>> sometimes used as a backup to take over during rain fade. During >>> the storm last week that brought a tornado just a few subway >>> stops from downtown Boston, we even lost 11 GHz links for time. >>> The rainfall was off the charts for the second time in a month. >>> But 5 Ghz links hardly noticed it. >>> >>> Also to Mimosa's credit, it comes with a 44 cm 25 dB dish, whose >>> narrowness helps with frequency reuse. It will probably produce >>> a lot less clutter than outdoor access points, or even some >>> indoor access points that use more power than necessary. (We put >>> a NanoBridge 5G25 on a hilltop and were able to pick up WLANs >>> inside office towers four miles away.) And they are petitioning >>> the FCC to open up 10 GHz under Part 90 (light licensing, like 3650). >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Matt Hoppes >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Oh dear.... so more backhauling noise on the 5GHz spectrum? >>> >>> AF5 + Mimosa.... >>> >>> >>> >>> Matt Hoppes >>> Director of Information Technology >>> Indigo Wireless >>> +1 (570) 723-7312 <tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312> >>> >>> On 8/5/14, 9:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: >>> > Have to give them credit on the website. Nice look J >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > *_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer_**Author >>> of "Learn >>> > RouterOS- Second Edition >>> > <http://www.wlan1.com/product_p/mikrotik%20book-2.htm>” >>> > >>> > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support >>> > Services >>> > >>> > Office*: 314-735-0270 <tel:314-735-0270> >>> <tel:314-735-0270 <tel:314-735-0270>> *Website*: >>> > http://www.linktechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> >>> <http://www.linktechs.net/> – *Skype*: >>> > linktechs >>> > <skype:linktechs?call> >>> > */ /**/-- Create Wireless Coverage’s with >>> /*www.towercoverage.com <http://www.towercoverage.com/> >>> > <http://www.towercoverage.com/>*//*/–*900Mhz – LTE – 3G >>> – 3.65 – TV >>> > Whitespace */ >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > *From:*[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> [mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>] >>> > *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini >>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2014 7:49 AM >>> > *To:* WISPA General List >>> > *Subject:* [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page.html >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Gino A. 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