I totally understand, Steve.

What I'm saying is now you have folks throwing up 5GHz 40MHz
backhauls.... ewwwww.  I guess we'll say.  It's nice the options are out
there, but I wish they could be saved for use in the hands of WISPs only.


On 8/6/14, 2:17 PM, Steve Barnes wrote:
> Matt, nausea can be fixed with realism. I have used nothing but 5GHz 
> backhauls for 8 years. Only in the last 2 years have we gone to any 5 GHz 
> Client other than business.  I have 15 towers and each has at least 2 paths 
> in and out for redundancy.  So that is 35+ Links.  Most are 5 miles or more 
> so not an AF24 candidate in my rain zone.  I can't afford to just go out and 
> buy $175,000 worth of licensed backhauls.  But for the price of one Licensed 
> link I can buy 2.5- 5GHz links (AF5, Mimosa, or whoever)  saving me $100,000 
> when all is said and done.  
> 
> Would I prefer to do all licensed and save all the 5GHz for Customer?  Heck 
> Yes!!  But that is not the reality I live in.
> 
> Steve Barnes
> General Manager
> PCSWIN.com
> Howard LLC.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 2:03 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)
> 
> I guess... all this backhauling in 5GHz is just making me nauseous.
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/6/14, 1:48 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> Higher one way throughput.
>> More channels to choose from.
>> DFS hit doesn't take your link down.
>> External antennas.
>> Once you add in those external antennas, there are a ton of things 
>> that vary like X-pol and F/B.
>> Lower power consumption.
>> Standard PoE.
>> Etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 6, 2014 12:40:36 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa B5-160 v UBNT AF5-US Chart (working)
>>
>> THanks Josh!
>> I'm not sure this puts the Mimosa device in a positive spot light?
>>
>> H/V instead of cross-slant antennas.
>> Pretty bad F/B compared to the airFiber.
>> And latency is higher than an airFiber
>>
>> What's the "amazing" thing about this new device?
>>
>> On 8/5/14, 6:16 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gurmZ2nJru0e87DZuGxfipTB326NiP
>> OTkLXNIXBDfdc/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> submit comments for approval / additions please
>>>
>>> I'm waiting back on UBNT to help further fill in the chart, and some 
>>> of it I'm lazy on.
>>>
>>> TODO: For sure, add bandwidth / distance / modulation / signal / 
>>> channel width table
>>>
>>> Also, would like to hear Mimosa's PPS count, and see any results of 
>>> an
>>> RFC2544 test (which normally eats most wireless gear alive).
>>>
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