On 10/21/2016 9:52 PM, Tim Way wrote:

2k12r2 ha DHCP service, Linux clustering or simple dual scopes!



That still requires connectivity from the device to the DHCP server. Static management addresses let you associate a piece of hardware, a physical thing, with that 32-bit name and not worry about it.

On Oct 21, 2016 6:16 PM, "Adair Winter" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    What happens when DHCP quits and you can't manage anything?
    Powercode assigns the next available management IP for whatever
    tower/range and we statically assign to the CPE

    On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 6:13 PM, Ian Fraser <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Not sure how static would be safer than DHCP for CPE mgmt?

        Ian


        -------- Original message --------
        From: Fred Goldstein <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        Date:10-21-2016 6:31 PM (GMT-05:00)
        To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        Cc:
        Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network/infrastructure design for WISP's

        On 10/21/2016 5:55 PM, Ian Fraser wrote:
        >
        >
        > PPPOE for Res traffic. VLAN's for Biz. Public IP's are
        statically
        > assigned.  DHCP for CPE's MgMt IP assignment. PPPOE session
        and CPE's
        > connection to the AP authenticated by Radius. Radius
        Accounting  is
        > used for traffic billing and session info.
        >

        Wouldn't it be safer to use static IPs for CPE management? I'd
        do that,
        private IPs of course on a management VLAN not visible to
        customers.

        > Per site: 2 VLANs for MgMt (1 for Tower/AP/UPS etc and 1 for
        CPEs) and
        > 1 VLAN per AP for PPPOE or a dedicated VLAN per Biz. AP's
        are bridged
        > for CPE's PPPOE to NAS.  uPnP enabled CPEs. Cust Routers are
        not
        > allowed to initiate PPPOE.  PPPOE NAS's are mostly colocated
        tower
        > sites so that backhauls can see QOS markers on traffic and
        not just a
        > Tunnel.
        >
        > BGP Advertises IP range per Fibre POP and feeds 0.0.0.0/0
        <http://0.0.0.0/0> into OSPF
        > for redistributing routes inside the AS. Infrastructure MgMt
        is on
        > RFC1918 and customers are Public IPs.  Firewall rules on
        > NAS/Router/CPE prevent Customer IP's from reaching MgMt IP's.
        >
        Nice if you have enough public IPs for customers. I'm not sure
        BGP and
        PPPOE are necessarily the easiest protocols for this purpose, but
        definitely do use the VLANs and keep the routing out of the
        radios.

        > Mikrotik for all routing.  Netonix for most switching.
        Mikrotik for
        > most PtMP (probably uncommon) but LTE is Telrad in areas
        where it is
        > deployed, which skews the above architecture a bit :(  LTE
        is not for
        > newbies though.... mind you maybe Mikrotik isn't either
        lol...  but in
        > 13 years I've never been floored by a virus "infecting" my
        gear ;-)
        >
        You can't do 5 GHz with MikroTik in the US; they don't have
        valid FCC
        approval any more. Not that they admit it, but the US isn't a
        big market
        for them. The wireless design itself has to be based on the local
        terrain, clutter (trees, etc.), subscriber density, and other
        conditions.

        You do want a nice SNMP monitoring system that allows you to pull
        whatever parameters you want out of the MIB, not one that
        charges per
        line item (like PRTG) or that only pulls a few selected
        details. I do
        enjoy the detail I can get out of InterMapper, for instance.
        Where are
        you (or your planned network) located, Jordan?

        > Cheers,
        >
        > Ian
        >
        >
        >> On 10/21/2016 3:07 PM, Jordan de Geus wrote:
        >>> Hey guys,
        >>>
        >>> I'm very new to the WISP industry and I've been curious to
        know how
        >>> people are designing their WISP networks.
        >>>
        >>> Are you creating VLAN's for each connection point? So your
        backhauls
        >>> are all in one VLAN, while all AP to client connections
        are in
        >>> another VLAN?
        >>>
        >>> I had been thinking about how the above VLAN based design
        would be,
        >>> in terms of security, and I realized that if all CPE's
        were in one
        >>> VLAN together, wouldn't they be able to cross communicate?
        So an AP
        >>> with 30 clients operating in VLANX, would essentially be
        able to
        >>> communicate to each other, bring security as a major
        issue. I was
        >>> thinking that you'd be able to do VLAN's for each
        customer, but
        >>> doing a PTMP setup for residential purposes, I feel like
        the system
        >>> would be quite bogged down with that amount of vlans?
        >>>
        >>> How are you authenticating and issuing IP's to clients?
        Are you
        >>> doing PPPOE or DHCP? Is everything just in routed tables?
        >>>
        >>> What sort of hardware are you using for your network
        design and
        >>> management?
        >>>
        >>> Kind Regards,
        >>> Jordan
        >>>


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