Based on that interpretation Dish and Dierct-tv would not be completely exempt
as they use power over Coax for some of their technology. Hughesnet and Exeede
would certainly be affected as well. That would completely destroy their cheap
contractor business model.
This is honestly hilarious. Don't expect this to go quietly.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 1:56pm
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs
So if this is correct, my installers have to be licensed electricians? Or is
the consensus that we are exempt? If I have to hire licensed electricians for
the installs it's going to be very expensive and I'll have to stop waiving
install fees. Based on what I've seen though we are excluded.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On May 12, 2017, at 11:44 AM, James Wilson <[ ja...@ridgecomms.com ](
mailto:ja...@ridgecomms.com )> wrote:
Maybe the device can be considered the POE injector?
On May 12, 2017 1:42 PM, "Paul McNary" <[ c...@northmo.net ](
mailto:c...@northmo.net )> wrote:
So does that indicate that Dish and direct tv will also not be exempt in his
interpretation?
Paul
On 5/12/2017 12:32 PM, Mitch wrote:
Just got off the phone with our local State Inspector
His take is if the device is outside and NOT getting power
from inside the property it is located at then it is exempt (such as
telco and CATV).
If the outdoor device gets power from inside the property
then it is NOT exempt.
This is how I read it
Mitch
On 05/12/2017 11:16 AM, [ garrettshan...@vabb.com ](
mailto:garrettshan...@vabb.com ) wrote:
Considering V.A. doesn't have a separate certification for low voltage, I
certainly hope we're excluded. It would be difficult to get all of our
technicians though a 3 year apprenticeship as required by law for a full
certification.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Matt Hoppes" [ <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> ](
mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net )
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 12:10pm
To: "WISPA General List" [ <wireless@wispa.org> ]( mailto:wireless@wispa.org )
Subject: Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs
Ummm. We are exclusively excluded. You even highlighted it.
On May 12, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Mitch <[ mi...@abetterwireless.com ](
mailto:mi...@abetterwireless.com )> wrote:
Looks like all installers will have to be licensed Electricians
for everything and anything that connects to a power source????
Am I reading wrong?
NFPA 70: DOCUMENT SCOPE
90.2 Scope.
(A) Covered. This Code covers the installation and removal of electrical
conductors, equipment, and raceways; signaling and communications conductors,
equipment, and raceways; and optical fiber cables and raceways for the
following:
(1) Public and private premises, including buildings, structures, mobile homes,
recreational vehicles, and floating buildings
(2) Yards, lots, parking lots, carnivals, and industrial substations
(3) Installations of conductors and equipment that connect to the supply of
electricity
(4) Installations used by the electric utility, such as office buildings,
warehouses, garages, machine shops, and recreational buildings, that are not an
integral part of a generating plant, substation, or control center
(B) Not Covered. This Code does not cover the following:
(1) Installations in ships, watercraft other than floating buildings, railway
rolling stock, aircraft, or automotive vehicles other than mobile homes and
recreational vehicles
Informational Note: Although the scope of this Code indicates that the Code
does not cover installations in ships, portions of this Code are incorporated
by reference into Title 46, Code of
Federal Regulations, Parts 110–113.
(2) Installations underground in mines and self-propelled mobile surface mining
machinery and its attendant electrical trailing cable
(3) Installations of railways for generation, transformation, transmission,
energy storage, or distribution of power used exclusively for operation of
rolling stock or installations used exclusively for signaling and
communications purposes
(4) Installations of communications equipment under the exclusive control of
communications utilities located outdoors or in building spaces used
exclusively for such installations
(5) Installations under the exclusive control of an electric utility where such
installations
a. Consist of service drops or service laterals, and associated metering, or
b. Are on property owned or leased by the electric utility for the purpose of
communications, metering, generation, control, transformation, transmission,
energy storage, or distribution of electric energy, or
c. Are located in legally established easements or rights-of-way, or
d. Are located by other written agreements either designated by or recognized
by public service commissions, utility commissions, or other regulatory
agencies having jurisdiction for such installations. These written agreements
shall be limited to installations for the purpose of communications, metering,
generation, control, transformation, transmission, energy storage, or
distribution of electric energy where legally established easements or
rights-of-way cannot be obtained. These installations shall be limited to
federal lands, Native American reservations through the U.S. Department of the
Interior Bureau of Indian Affairs, military bases, lands controlled by port
authorities and state agencies and departments, and lands owned by railroads.
Informational Note to (4) and (5): Examples of utilities may include those
entities that are typically designated or recognized by governmental law or
regulation by public service/utility commissions and that install, operate, and
maintain electric supply (such as generation, transmission, or distribution
systems) or communications systems (such as telephone, CATV,
Internet, satellite, or data services). Utilities may be subject to compliance
with codes and standards covering their regulated activities as adopted under
governmental law or regulation.
Additional information can be found through consultation with the appropriate
governmental bodies, such as state regulatory commissions, the Federal Energy
Regulatory Commission, and the Federal Communications Commission.
(C) Special Permission. The authority having jurisdiction for enforcing this
Code may grant exception for the installation of conductors and equipment that
are not under the exclusive control of the electric utilities and are used to
connect the electric utility supply system to the service conductors of the
premises served, provided such installations are outside a building or
structure, or terminate inside at a readily accessible location nearest the
point of entrance of the service conductors.
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