Hi Mark,

Thanks for the response and the attachments. I am looking forward to draft.

In the mean time could you elaborate on "the overhead of Title II and the 
regulatory uncertainty that comes with Title II". 

Thanks
Mark


----- On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:41 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:

> Steve Coran and associates are currently working on the FCC comments that are
> due on the 17th. A draft should be available later this week on the FCC
> committee list later this week and will have a very detailed discussion of the
> subject.
> 
> Below is the letter many of our members signed onto when the initial proposal 
> to
> reverse Title II was released by the commission. It covers much of the
> reasoning behind WISPA’s position (though the letter is not a official WISPA
> filing).
> 
> 
> 
> 
> It’s a good place to start from in discussing the issues.
> 
> In regard to the ‘good’ things in Title II such as Pole Attach and Right of 
> Way
> access that could be lost with a reversal of Title II the FCC is conducting 
> two
> proceedings 17-84 Accelerating Wireline Broadband Deployment by Removing
> Barriers to nfrastructure Investment and 17-79 “Accelerating Wrieless 
> Broadband
> Deployment by Removing Barriers to Infrastructure Investement”. WISPA filed
> comments supporting the commissions authority to apply it’s rules regarding
> equal access regardless of regulatory classification.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mark
> 
> Mark Radabaugh
> WISPA FCC Committee Chair
> [ mailto:fcc_ch...@wispa.org | fcc_ch...@wispa.org ]
> 419-261-5996
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 9:55 PM, Mark Steckel < [ mailto:m...@fix.net | 
> m...@fix.net ]
> > wrote:
> 
> Mark,
> 
> Can you please explain this position, specifically the arguments against the
> Title II classification?
> 
> Thanks
> Mark
> 
> 
> ----- On Jul 6, 2017, at 9:41 PM, Mark Radabaugh [ mailto:m...@amplex.net |
> m...@amplex.net ] wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I would prefer not to see members signing onto the EFF letter. The EFF 
> position
> is contrary to the positions that WISPA has taken on Network Neutrality and
> Title II both at the board and committee levels.
> 
> WISPA continues to support the principals of network neutrality and an open
> Internet but believe this can best be achieved without the overhead of Title 
> II
> and the regulatory uncertainty that comes with Title II.
> 
> 
> Mark Radabaugh
> WISPA FCC Committee Chair
> [ [ mailto:fcc_ch...@wispa.org | mailto:fcc_ch...@wispa.org ] | [
> mailto:fcc_ch...@wispa.org | fcc_ch...@wispa.org ] ]
> 419-261-5996
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:52 PM, mike.lyon--- via WISP < [ [ mailto:w...@wispa.org 
> |
> mailto:w...@wispa.org ] |
> [ mailto:w...@wispa.org | w...@wispa.org ] ] > wrote:
> 
> Forwarded on from another mailing list.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Erica Portnoy < [ [ mailto:er...@eff.org | mailto:er...@eff.org ] | [
> mailto:er...@eff.org | er...@eff.org ] ] >
> Date: July 5, 2017 at 15:59:37 PDT
> To: [ [ mailto:na...@nanog.org | mailto:na...@nanog.org ] | [
> mailto:na...@nanog.org | na...@nanog.org ] ]
> Subject: Sign onto EFF's comment to the FCC on their net neutrality proposal
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> As many of you know, the FCC is currently engaging in the process of
> repealing its network neutrality rules and eliminating its Title II
> authority over broadband providers.
> 
> I'm writing you today to ask you to sign on to a letter that EFF has
> prepared for filing, which explains several key engineering concepts
> that are vital to understanding how the Internet actually operates given
> that the FCC's own findings misinterpret how the Internet works.
> 
> The letter stays away from legal arguments, and instead focuses on
> technical statements on the design and operation of the Internet. It is
> meant to establish a factual record for the FCC about the Internet and
> it is necessary because its initial findings in its Notice of Proposed
> Rulemaking
> < [ [ https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-344614A1.pdf |
> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-344614A1.pdf ] |
> [ https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-344614A1.pdf |
> https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-344614A1.pdf ] ] > are
> just wrong. For one, the FCC thinks that broadband Internet providers
> are the ones providing end users with the services of the entire
> Internet, from search engines to online newspapers to language
> translation tools.
> 
> /*If you're willing to sign on and help, please email
> [ [ mailto:engineers-nn-comme...@eff.org | 
> mailto:engineers-nn-comme...@eff.org
> ] | [ mailto:engineers-nn-comme...@eff.org | engineers-nn-comme...@eff.org ] ]
> (off-list) by Friday, July 14 */and I will
> be happy to share a copy of the letter for you to review before you
> agree to sign on.
> 
> The more signatures we can get, the more likely the FCC is to take
> notice as well as the courts should they move forward. All it takes is
> an email. Please help us make sure the FCC gets the facts from an
> engineer's standpoint.
> 
> Thank you for your support,
> 
> Erica Portnoy
> Staff Technologist
> Electronic Frontier Foundation
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