Can't remember that far back but wouldn't be surprised we were 100 when we
signed up.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 17, 2018 6:06 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
wrote:

> They must have quoted you much better rates than they quoted me then.
>
> Also, when I got my initial quote with them I had fewer than 100 subs. As
> I’ve added it will naturally cost less per sub because it offsets the
> monthly cost. It may be cheaper now.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> My bill disagrees with you but it's up to you.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jan 17, 2018 5:43 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I did a long time ago. After the monthly cost including the
>> processing fees it was more expensive.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:24 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> You didn't talk to IPPay then.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Brett A Mansfield <
>> li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Still lower than the quotes I got from all the others. Plus, it’s easier
>>> to configure, manage, use, etc.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Only 50% higher, geez.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stripe's published pricing is way above the ISP-focused providers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:56:49 PM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> I pay less with Stripe than I would with all of those. Plus, stipe
>>>> includes free ACH now.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Less than IP Pay, Pro Pay, etc.? ISP-specific payment systems?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Josh Richesin" <j...@surelinebroadband.com>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:07:03 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> Lower cost on the CC processing, also, our current system is built on
>>>> that with tokens, so it would avoid us having to collect credit card
>>>> information from all of the customers again.  The first point being more
>>>> important than the second.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Richesin
>>>>
>>>> Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
>>>>
>>>> j...@surelinebroadband.com
>>>>
>>>> www.surelinebroadband.com
>>>>
>>>> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>>>>
>>>> Madras, OR 97741
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *<wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
>>>> wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>>> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 12:05 PM
>>>> *To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why would you use Stripe?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Josh Richesin" <j...@surelinebroadband.com>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:01:30 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> If only they had stripe integration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Richesin
>>>>
>>>> Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
>>>>
>>>> j...@surelinebroadband.com
>>>>
>>>> www.surelinebroadband.com
>>>>
>>>> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>>>>
>>>> Madras, OR 97741
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *<wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
>>>> wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>>> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM
>>>> *To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seems like the BMU was a solution to a problem that didn't exist in the
>>>> first place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:26:40 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> I imagine it's for new customers or customers stuck in their ways.
>>>> Everyone else running Powercode is already running the BMU and spending
>>>> their time on other things instead of replacing what's already working.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It amazes me that it has taken them t his long to support MT in that
>>>> fashion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:23:15 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> Mikrotik BMU is still in beta.  Pretty much everyone is currently using
>>>> the Powercode BMU.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim Reichhart <t...@nwohiobb.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>> Your still around the business? I haven't spoken to you in long while..
>>>> I
>>>> was using iwisp.gr I just switched to powercode about week ago and my
>>>> powercode isn't working due to miktroik bmu is still in beta and
>>>> everytime I
>>>> call into support I get excuses it just seems like powercode lacks the
>>>> support for there software. If powercode doesn't get there act together
>>>> I
>>>> might be looking to switch to ubnt crm or sonar.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Alan Luelf
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:11 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> We use Sonar. There is also powercode, Azotel, visp.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> > On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Brian Rohrbacher <
>>>> br...@reliableinter.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > What do we got out there for billing solutions?  My current one is not
>>>> > working out.  I've been using Freeside for a number of years now and I
>>>> > liked it but they don't have any support staff left and seem to be
>>>> > falling apart.  I've been constantly requesting an SSL renewal for 45
>>>> > days and they just can't get it done.  It's beyond frustrating, time
>>>> > consuming and embarrassing try to explain to hundreds of customers why
>>>> > my payment site is not secure.  I can't take it anymore.  I need some
>>>> > recommendations on whats out there.  I want good support.  I need a
>>>> > solution with support.  What's everybody using?  What do you like and
>>>> > dislike about it?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Brian
>>>> >
>>>> >
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