In my case, I LIKE the fact that Authorize.net does it. If I could somehow get them to do my laundry, I’d let them do that as well.
If any of these folks are going to WispAmerica I will be there Monday and Tuesday I believe. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 9:00 PM To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution But it's not their job. I'm not asking them to do my laundry either. That's the responsibility of whatever is feeding data to Authorize.Net\IP Pay. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "ralph" <ralphli...@bsrg.org <mailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 7:56:45 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution If you haven’t heard of that, Mike, then you haven’t used Authorize.net. It IS IP Pay’s responsibility to listen to the customer’s needs. If they want to stand out, then they will also adjust to and meet those needs. They should at LEAST provide a similar level of service to Authorize.net. Like I said, we are small and things like that help a LOT! Otherwise the customer leaves. Maybe one day they will understand that they need to be flexible. And it looks like I am not the only one with similar views. Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:58 PM To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution It's not IP Pay's responsibility to do that. That's WiFiRush's responsibility. I've never heard of the credit card processor being involved at that level. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "ralph" <ralphli...@bsrg.org <mailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2018 10:46:46 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution I will tell you my issue with IP Pay. We aren’t large. Our network runs like a giant Hotspot and most customers pay monthly when their time runs out.. Our billing solution(WiFiRush) uses Authorize.net. Authorize.net sends a payment receipt with transaction number, etc. to the Email address the customer provides. I also receive a copy, which is automatically sent to a folder that is only used in case there is a catastrophic failure of something and all billing records get lost. IP Pay is inflexible and refuses to do that. They want my system to send the receipt to the customer, which it does not. They also say that I must manually look up records of any past transactions in their web site. This is cumbersome and (for me) it is much easier to search for the customer name in my backup receipts that were Emailed. I seldom need them but it is good to know they are there. I once almost started using them but this issue stopped the show. Unfortunately they started billing me a monthly fee even though I never officially started using them and never processed any transactions at all. It was a lot of difficulty to make them stop charging me. If they would simply send the receipts, like Authorize.net does, I would probably switch to them since they are supposedly “ISP Friendly”. I can’t believe this is not an option of theirs! Ralph From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:01 AM To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution I think you need to re-visit IP Pay, Propay, etc. for current quotes. Stripe absolutely is more expensive. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Josh Richesin" <j...@surelinebroadband.com <mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:25:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution Agreed! Josh Richesin Phone: (541) 699-0030 | Fax (541) 526-0988 <mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com> j...@surelinebroadband.com <http://www.surelinebroadband.com> www.surelinebroadband.com 596 SW 4th Street | Mail: 380 SW 5th Street Madras, OR 97741 From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> > on behalf of Brett A Mansfield <li...@silverlakeinternet.com <mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution Still lower than the quotes I got from all the others. Plus, it’s easier to configure, manage, use, etc. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: Only 50% higher, geez. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > wrote: Stripe's published pricing is way above the ISP-focused providers. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com <mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:56:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution I pay less with Stripe than I would with all of those. Plus, stipe includes free ACH now. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > wrote: Less than IP Pay, Pro Pay, etc.? ISP-specific payment systems? ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Josh Richesin" <j...@surelinebroadband.com <mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:07:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution Lower cost on the CC processing, also, our current system is built on that with tokens, so it would avoid us having to collect credit card information from all of the customers again. The first point being more important than the second. Josh Richesin Phone: (541) 699-0030 <tel:(541)%20699-0030> | Fax (541) 526-0988 <tel:(541)%20526-0988> <mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com> j...@surelinebroadband.com <http://www.surelinebroadband.com> www.surelinebroadband.com 596 SW 4th Street | Mail: 380 SW 5th Street Madras, OR 97741 From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> > on behalf of Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 12:05 PM To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution Why would you use Stripe? ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Josh Richesin" <j...@surelinebroadband.com <mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:01:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution If only they had stripe integration. Josh Richesin Phone: (541) 699-0030 <tel:(541)%20699-0030> | Fax (541) 526-0988 <tel:(541)%20526-0988> <mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com> j...@surelinebroadband.com <http://www.surelinebroadband.com> www.surelinebroadband.com 596 SW 4th Street | Mail: 380 SW 5th Street Madras, OR 97741 From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> > on behalf of Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution Seems like the BMU was a solution to a problem that didn't exist in the first place. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:26:40 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution I imagine it's for new customers or customers stuck in their ways. Everyone else running Powercode is already running the BMU and spending their time on other things instead of replacing what's already working. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:(937)%20552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net> > wrote: It amazes me that it has taken them t his long to support MT in that fashion. ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:23:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution Mikrotik BMU is still in beta. Pretty much everyone is currently using the Powercode BMU. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:(937)%20552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim Reichhart <t...@nwohiobb.com <mailto:t...@nwohiobb.com> > wrote: Brian Your still around the business? I haven't spoken to you in long while.. I was using iwisp.gr <http://iwisp.gr> I just switched to powercode about week ago and my powercode isn't working due to miktroik bmu is still in beta and everytime I call into support I get excuses it just seems like powercode lacks the support for there software. If powercode doesn't get there act together I might be looking to switch to ubnt crm or sonar. Tim -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> ] On Behalf Of Alan Luelf Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:11 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution We use Sonar. There is also powercode, Azotel, visp. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Brian Rohrbacher <br...@reliableinter.net > <mailto:br...@reliableinter.net> > wrote: > > What do we got out there for billing solutions? My current one is not > working out. I've been using Freeside for a number of years now and I > liked it but they don't have any support staff left and seem to be > falling apart. I've been constantly requesting an SSL renewal for 45 > days and they just can't get it done. It's beyond frustrating, time > consuming and embarrassing try to explain to hundreds of customers why > my payment site is not secure. I can't take it anymore. I need some > recommendations on whats out there. I want good support. I need a > solution with support. What's everybody using? 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