What does it have that Powercode doesn't?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
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On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 8:31 PM, Matt Hoppes <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Well that’s what I mean. I need to look at everything when we go to make
> our change.
>
> Just looking at the surface it’s like $58/month.
>
> If it’s several hundred I’ll probably move everything.
>
> I do like the simplicity of stripe and the app makes it very easy to see
> what’s going on.
>
> On Feb 3, 2018, at 20:05, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> 30c per transaction too.  Which is ironic that you're not complaining
> about ;P
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Feb 3, 2018 8:01 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> 2.6% vs 2.9%.
>>
>> Plus stripe doesn’t have 10,000 fees
>>
>> Compliance fees
>> Government fees
>> PCI fees
>> Parking lot restriping fees
>>
>> We are about to re do our entire billing system. I’ll run the numbers and
>> let you know.
>>
>> It appears to be a difference of about $58 per month that using stripe
>> costs me.
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:48, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Depends how much revenue you do.  The difference of what I'm paying
>> versus what the website said would be for me.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2018 7:47 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Josh. Stripe isn’t that much more than ippay
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:18, Artie Darrell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Matt sorry trying to catch up on this (long) thread.. What's your
>>> recommendation?
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2018 8:11 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Takes two minutes to setup.
>>>>
>>>>  Very easy to review info from their app. Web interface is very easy to
>>>> use.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:04, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In what way would Stripe be better? I like at people that use Stripe
>>>> like the people that get their automotive parts from Walmart. Yeah, you
>>>> could, but...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
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>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:54:07 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> Exactly. Stripe has very very nice records of every thing. Very user
>>>> friendly web and app.
>>>>
>>>> IPpay is like the Big Mac truck in Africa from 1985. Yeah. It does its
>>>> job. But it’s not pretty.
>>>>
>>>> Stripe is like the hot new Tesla pickup. Maybe it costs just a tad
>>>> more. But it’s way better, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:37, Jeff Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> CTI (IP Pay) is generally not flexible and not all that ISP friendly
>>>> IMHO.  Although I do use IP PAY integrated with VISP and have no issues
>>>> with it other than what you describe in looking up transactions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> On 2/3/2018 11:46 AM, ralph wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I will tell you my issue with IP Pay.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We aren’t large. Our network runs like a giant Hotspot and most
>>>> customers pay monthly when their time runs out.. Our billing
>>>> solution(WiFiRush)  uses Authorize.net. Authorize.net sends a payment
>>>> receipt with transaction number, etc. to the Email address the customer
>>>> provides.  I also receive a copy, which is automatically sent to a folder
>>>> that is only used in case there is a catastrophic failure of something and
>>>> all billing records get lost.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IP Pay is inflexible and refuses to do that. They want my system to
>>>> send the receipt to the customer, which it does not.  They also say that I
>>>> must manually look up records of any past transactions in their web site.
>>>> This is cumbersome and (for me) it is much easier to search for the
>>>> customer name in my backup receipts that were Emailed. I seldom need them
>>>> but it is good to know they are there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I once almost started using them but this issue stopped the show.
>>>> Unfortunately they started billing me a monthly fee even though I never
>>>> officially started using them and never processed any transactions at all.
>>>> It was a lot of difficulty to make them stop charging me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If they would simply send the receipts, like Authorize.net does, I
>>>> would probably switch to them since they are supposedly “ISP Friendly”. I
>>>> can’t believe this is not an option of theirs!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]
>>>> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:01 AM
>>>> *To:* WISPA General List <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think you need to re-visit IP Pay, Propay, etc. for current quotes.
>>>> Stripe absolutely is more expensive.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Josh Richesin" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:25:00 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> Agreed!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Richesin
>>>>
>>>> Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
>>>>
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> www.surelinebroadband.com
>>>>
>>>> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>>>>
>>>> Madras, OR 97741
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *<[email protected]> on behalf of Brett A Mansfield <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:20 PM
>>>> *To: *WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Still lower than the quotes I got from all the others. Plus, it’s
>>>> easier to configure, manage, use, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Only 50% higher, geez.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Stripe's published pricing is way above the ISP-focused providers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:56:49 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> I pay less with Stripe than I would with all of those. Plus, stipe
>>>> includes free ACH now.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Less than IP Pay, Pro Pay, etc.? ISP-specific payment systems?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Josh Richesin" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:07:03 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> Lower cost on the CC processing, also, our current system is built on
>>>> that with tokens, so it would avoid us having to collect credit card
>>>> information from all of the customers again.  The first point being more
>>>> important than the second.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Richesin
>>>>
>>>> Phone: (541) 699-0030 <%28541%29%20699-0030>  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
>>>> <%28541%29%20526-0988>
>>>>
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> www.surelinebroadband.com
>>>>
>>>> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>>>>
>>>> Madras, OR 97741
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *<[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 12:05 PM
>>>> *To: *WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why would you use Stripe?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Josh Richesin" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:01:30 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> If only they had stripe integration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Richesin
>>>>
>>>> Phone: (541) 699-0030 <%28541%29%20699-0030>  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
>>>> <%28541%29%20526-0988>
>>>>
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> www.surelinebroadband.com
>>>>
>>>> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>>>>
>>>> Madras, OR 97741
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *<[email protected]> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM
>>>> *To: *WISPA General List <[email protected]>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Seems like the BMU was a solution to a problem that didn't exist in the
>>>> first place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:26:40 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> I imagine it's for new customers or customers stuck in their ways.
>>>> Everyone else running Powercode is already running the BMU and spending
>>>> their time on other things instead of replacing what's already working.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It amazes me that it has taken them t his long to support MT in that
>>>> fashion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:23:15 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> Mikrotik BMU is still in beta.  Pretty much everyone is currently using
>>>> the Powercode BMU.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim Reichhart <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>> Your still around the business? I haven't spoken to you in long while..
>>>> I
>>>> was using iwisp.gr I just switched to powercode about week ago and my
>>>> powercode isn't working due to miktroik bmu is still in beta and
>>>> everytime I
>>>> call into support I get excuses it just seems like powercode lacks the
>>>> support for there software. If powercode doesn't get there act together
>>>> I
>>>> might be looking to switch to ubnt crm or sonar.
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>> Behalf Of Alan Luelf
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:11 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> We use Sonar. There is also powercode, Azotel, visp.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> > On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Brian Rohrbacher <
>>>> [email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > What do we got out there for billing solutions?  My current one is not
>>>> > working out.  I've been using Freeside for a number of years now and I
>>>> > liked it but they don't have any support staff left and seem to be
>>>> > falling apart.  I've been constantly requesting an SSL renewal for 45
>>>> > days and they just can't get it done.  It's beyond frustrating, time
>>>> > consuming and embarrassing try to explain to hundreds of customers why
>>>> > my payment site is not secure.  I can't take it anymore.  I need some
>>>> > recommendations on whats out there.  I want good support.  I need a
>>>> > solution with support.  What's everybody using?  What do you like and
>>>> > dislike about it?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Brian
>>>> >
>>>> >
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