I meant somewhere where Safari doesn't work other than with tango/witango. I wasn't referring to opera.

Robert.

On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 04:06 AM, Simon Boddy wrote:

Does anyone read my posts?
The same issue happens with Opera and Witango. Same MIME encoded posts. Same failure of app server to parse args. Nothing to do with the size of upload. Some issue with MIME encoding. TCPView Pro lets you inspect MIME encoded posts. Does anyone [have/know of] a tool for editing and resubmitting posts char by char? What TCP trace tools do people use? Does anyone know of a free one?


Regards
Simon.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 06 August 2003 11:47
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: OT: File Uploads with Safari


Does anyone know of any other place that the upload doesn't work? Somewhere other than witango? When it was in beta, I could get it to fail in many places, now that it is GM, I have only seen it not work in Witango.

Robert.



On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 02:59 AM, Christian Platt wrote:

Just testet it.
 You can also test it also at  http://www.apocm.de/fileuploadtest.taf

Just also posted it to safari, hoping the more people post an error,
the faster it is done.

Post was...
The file upload does not work in Safari. If i use IE5, it works.
Server ist OSX Apache with Witango 5 Application Server. Also does not > work against a MacOS 9 Webstar Witango. IE5 also loads up the file.


Christian

Am Mittwoch, 06.08.03 um 04:46 Uhr schrieb Bill Conlon:

I'll be testing file uploads tomorrow in a new admin tool.  I'll
report
my findings with Safari vs. Mozilla 1.4 on linux
apache2.046/witango5.062

No I think it is safari also. I've seen this with Filemaker site and >>> next
previous buttons where you would think the CDL they are using would
not
matter because it is rendered as HTML by the browser but it was
broken in
version 1.0.


Safari has some bugs still with HTML it does not recognize often it
just
chokes other times errors like this.

Dan

on 8/5/03 18:41, Robert Garcia at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just quickly set up an old WebStar 4 install, cause it allows
simple
uploading, and it works just fine with Safari.

Safari may be doing something different than most browsers, but from
what I have tested, it is within spec. My file uploads have worked
in
all places I have tried them with Safari, except my witango apps.


If it works everywhere but Witango, I think the onus is on Witango. >>>> I
am not saying that Witango has a bug, it may or may not, but I think
there should be a fix to support upload from Safari, if everyone
else
does. Apple will not fix an issue that works in other places but not
Witango.


Let me know if you do not report it to Witango, and I will.

Robert.

On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 11:21 AM, Steve Smith wrote:

I've tested this problem with a Tango 2000 server running under IIS
and a Witango 5 server running on a Mac under Apache and both give >>>>> the
same results. Judging by the responses, I'd say that this looks to >>>>> be
a Safari problem, so I will begin there by submitting a bug report.
The same import file that I'm attempting to upload will work fine
using IE on the same machine.


Thanks to all who helped,

Steve Smith

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On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 01:44 PM, Robert Garcia wrote:

A form in a taf or tml or anyfile mapped to witango, is processed >>>>>> by
witango. I think there is a post from Phil clarifying this issue
on a
thread a while back about file uploads choking iis.


Robert.

On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 09:47 AM, Atrix Wolfe wrote:

have you done a view source on file upload forms that work and
dont
work and
compared?

have you put a plain html file of a file upload form on your
server
and had
witango serve the exact same thing and confirmed that the plain
html
works
where witango doesnt?

If you do these i bet you will see its not witango.  I dont
believe
witango
is what deals with the file uploads, but that your web server
does
so it
shouldnt matter if witango served the page or not.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Garcia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: OT: File Uploads with Safari


It is definitely Safari, however I used to have problems uploading files to any service, now I only have problems when I upload to witango since I upgraded to Safari 1.0.

Since my current experience is that my uploading to web forms
with
Safari is that it only doesn't work with witango, I would submit >>>>>>> it
as
a bug with Witango so they can investigate it and either report
it to
apple themselves, or fix the compatibility issue.


Please confirm that you post the bug.

Robert.

On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 08:38 AM, Scott Cadillac wrote:

Hi Steve,

I think someone else might have mentioned a similar problem with
Safari
before.

Does the upload HTML <FORM> element start something like:

<FORM method='POST' enctype="multipart/form-data"
action="myupload.taf">

The debug information you are showing for the Safari upload looks
very
unusual. I would hazard a guess that there is something not
well-formed
about your HTML that Safari is choking on - and as a result is
posting
gibberish. This is likely more of a browser issue than a Server
issue.


Most browsers can compensate for bad HTML coding habits, but
maybe
Safari is
being too strict or can't deal with some particular element or
attribute.

Do you have the upload form online somewhere that we can look at?

Let us know. Cheers....

Scott Cadillac,
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From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:47 AM
To: WiTango List
Subject: Witango-Talk: OT: File Uploads with Safari


I have an application that allows a user to submit an import file
for
processing. It has been running without problems under various
browsers but
recently I tried it with the released version of Safari (1.0
v85).
The
response I received was a "Could not open the specified file".


When I examine the Application File portion of the debug, I see
the
following:

START /adm/importinventory.taf Tango_2000_Server
_function=uploadfile&_UserReference=D7FDB24AAE18AE193F2FE23F
------------0xKhTmLbOuNdArY Content-Disposition: form-data;
name="SAVEAS"
------------0xKhTmLbOuNdArY Content-Disposition: form-data;
name="fupload";
filename=ÿ*¿âP Total Length of Postargs: 4417

When I look at the debug from IE (on the Mac) which works
properly,
I
get a
slightly different content for the Application File portion of
the
debug:

START /adm/importinventory.taf Tango_2000_Server
_function=uploadfile&_UserReference=DC7355EE5B35C6DA3F2FE3D0
fupload="241031","1277","1265" "001909","820","809"
"94354","198","188"
"001666","4056","4046" "24104X",ÿ ¿âP SAVEAS=3000-inventory
export0728.csv
Total Length of Postargs: 4523

I'm curious if anyone else has experienced problems like this
with
Safari
and if so, how did they resolve them. I've tested this under
Witango
5.0.1.062 and I get the same results so I'm pretty sure that this
is a
Safari thing.


Any ideas?

Please let me know.

Thanks,

Steve Smith

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