You know, that's an idea.  I hadn't thought about setting up a separate
datasource for the files.  Hmmmm........

:)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db?
> 
> 
> Hey, Jamileh,
> 
> MYSQL is free and thanks to Bill, you have the code, just 
> setup a second data source for the blobs :-)
> 
> Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
> Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller 
> Available for Witango Developement
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wilcox, Jamileh (HSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db?
> 
> Yup, text and image columns can hold huge amounts of 
> data...but you have to put it in 8KB at a time.  Is that a 
> great system, or what?
> 
> *g*
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:51 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db?
> > 
> > 
> > As Seargeant Schultz said"  "I know nothing" about MSSQL.  
> I have had
> > issues with uploading blobs greater than 1MB into mysql (this 
> > requires 
> > the variable max_allowed_packet be set), and I presume there is a 
> > parameter in MSSQL.
> > 
> > But ... my copy of Microsoft SQL Server Administrator Guide
> > says binary 
> > columns are limited to 8000 bytes, though text and image 
> > columns can be 
> > 2^31. 
> > 
> > >Bill this is great, but are you working with MS SQL Server?
> > >
> > >The issue here is mainly inserting blobs over 8k not just
> > into any DB
> > >but MSSQL
> > >
> > >
> > >Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com
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> > >Available for Witango Developement
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Bill Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:27 PM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db?
> > >
> > >I realized I didn't explicitly answer your question:
> > >
> > >I can upload any file type into the db, and download it to 
> a client.
> > >The only restriction is that the file extension be in the 
> mime type 
> > >table, a
> > >
> > >portion of which is below:
> > >
> > > id        type    extension
> > >   38      video/quicktime         .mov
> > >   37      video/mpeg      .mpg
> > >   36      text/xml        .xml
> > >   35      text/tab-separated-values       .tsv
> > >   34      text/sgml       .sgm
> > >   33      text/rtf        .rtf
> > >   32      text/richtext   .rtx
> > >
> > >
> > >>Have you done this with __PDF__ files stored in __MSSQL__?
> > If so, how
> > >>are you loading the files into the db?
> > >>
> > >>There is more to this issue than just how to set the HTTP
> > header for
> > >>display of pdf files.  I can read the file contents and
> > display as a
> > >>pdf; it's the database piece that causes a problem.  I
> > suspect Bengt
> > >>is running into the same issues.
> > >>
> > >>Thanks.     j
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Bill Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:41 PM
> > >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db?
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Here's what works for me:
> > >>> 
> > >>> 1.  Query my db (three tables for mime type, media meta 
> data, and
> > >>> the
> > >
> > >>> media data itself -- but you could put this into one table)
> > >>> 
> > >>> 2.  Set up the request scope variables
> > >>> <@ROWS>
> > >>> <@ASSIGN NAME="type" SCOPE="request" VALUE=<@COLUMN 
> "mime.type">> 
> > >>> <@ASSIGN NAME="date" SCOPE="request" VALUE=<@COLUMN 
> > >>> "media_description.date_modified">>
> > >>> <@ASSIGN NAME="size" SCOPE="request" VALUE=<@COLUMN
> > >>> "media.size">> <@ASSIGN NAME="filename" SCOPE="request" 
> > >>> VALUE=<@COLUMN "media.filename">> <@ASSIGN NAME="file" 
> > >>> SCOPE="request" VALUE=<@COLUMN "media.data">> </@ROWS>
> > >>> 
> > >>> 3.  Set up the HTTP header
> > >>> <@PURGERESULTS><@assign name="encodeResults" scope="request" 
> > >>> value="false"><@ASSIGN NAME="httpHeader" SCOPE="request" 
> > >>> encoding="none" VALUE="HTTP/1.1 200 OK<@CRLF>Server: Apache
> > >>> 2.0.046<@CRLF>Accept-Ranges: 
> > >>> bytes<@CRLF>Content-Type: 
> > @@request$type<@CRLF>Content-Disposition:
> > >>> inline; filename=@@request$filename<@CRLF>Last-Modified: <@VAR
> > >>> NAME="date" scope="request" 
> > format="datetime"><@CRLF>Content-Length:
> > >>> @@request$size<@CRLF><@CRLF>"><@VAR NAME="file" SCOPE="request"
> > >>> ENCODING="none">
> > >>> 
> > >>> >Hiya Bengt!
> > >>> >
> > >>> >1.  Check the binary data in your blob against your original
> > >>> file.  How
> > >>> >are you putting the PDF in?
> > >>> >
> > >>> >2.  Check the pdf binary data that is displayed against the
> > >>> binary data
> > >>> >in the original.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >I've still not gotten this to work properly, due to a null
> > >>> >character
> > >
> > >>> >used in the PDF format.  That characters always
> > truncated the data
> > >>> >either at upload or at read; I haven't found a workaround
> > >>> yet.  Other
> > >>> >folks said they had gotten it working, but they were either
> > >>> doing image
> > >>> >files rather than PDF, or were not on MSSQL.  (I had to drop
> > >>> the issue
> > >>> >when I hadn't managed to resolve it after several days.)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >If you can give me more info about how your process works, I'll
> > >>> >pull
> > >
> > >>> >the pertinent info I've collected and forward it.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >Good luck!
> > >>> >jamileh
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> >> From: Bengt Bredin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:28 AM
> > >>> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> >> Subject: SV: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db?
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> Hi all !
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> I have tried out this example from Troy and Scott but
> > can't get
> > >>> >> it to work. It's probably some misunderstanding from 
> me, but I
> > >>> >> try to get some help anyway. So I pull out my blob, 
> a pdf file 
> > >>> >> from the db (MSSQL) and use just a test taf to do this:
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> <@ASSIGN NAME="filedata" SCOPE="Local"
> > >>> >> VALUE="@@request$resultset[1,data]">
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> <@EXCLUDE>
> > >>> >> <@ASSIGN NAME=ENCODERESULTS VALUE=FALSE SCOPE=LOCAL> 
> <@ASSIGN 
> > >>> >> NAME=HttpHeader SCOPE=LOCAL
> > >>> >> VALUE="Content-type:
> > application/pdf<@CRLF><@SETCOOKIES><@CRLF>">
> > >>> >> </@EXCLUDE><@var request$filedata ENCODING=NONE>
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> Now I would like Adobe reader to start inside my
> > browser and show
> > >>> >> me the pdf,  but instead I get: Client Error The response
> > >>> >> received from the application server is invalid. On some 
> > >>> >> occasions it shows the pdf binary data instead.
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> Hope for better knowledge after San Diego trip Cheers...
> > >>> >> Bengt Bredin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> >> Sweden
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> Great work Troy,
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> Something to add, that I discovered the hard way, is 
> that some
> > >>> >> versions of the Adobe Plug-in for PDF may not 
> > initialize properly
> > >>> >> because the plug-in needs to know the size of the
> > document before
> > >>> >> hand.
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> So you might want to add "Content-Length:" to the HTTP
> > Response
> > >>> >> header, something like:
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> <@ASSIGN NAME=ENCODERESULTS VALUE=FALSE SCOPE=LOCAL> 
> <@ASSIGN 
> > >>> >> NAME=HttpHeader SCOPE=LOCAL VALUE="Content-type:
> > >>> >> application/pdf<@CRLF>Content-Length: <@LENGTH STR='<@COLUMN 
> > >>> >> <@DQ>articles.art_blob<@DQ> 
> > >>> >> ENCODING=NONE>'><@CRLF><@SETCOOKIES><@CRLF>"><@COLUMN
> > >>> >> "articles.art_blob"
> > >>> >> ENCODING=NONE>
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> Of course it might be more efficent to capture the
> > <@LENGTH> on
> > >>> >> the upload and store it a separate field next to the
> > >>> PDF content.
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> Hope this helps. Cheers....
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> Scott Cadillac,
> > >>> >> Witango.org - http://witango.org
> > >>> >> 403-281-6090 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> >> --
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> > >>> >> ---------------------
> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> XML-Extranet - http://xmlx.ca
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> > >>> >> --
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> > >>> >> 
> > >>> >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> >> > From: Troy Sosamon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:59 AM
> > >>> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> >> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db?
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > Here is the trickey part that you need.
> > >>> >> > Use a javascrip and open a new window and call a search
> > >>> action that
> > >>> >> > returns a blob and use this code:
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > <@EXCLUDE>
> > >>> >> > <@ASSIGN NAME=ENCODERESULTS VALUE=FALSE 
> SCOPE=LOCAL> <@ASSIGN 
> > >>> >> > NAME=HttpHeader SCOPE=LOCAL
> > >>> >> >    VALUE="Content-type:
> > >>> >> > application/pdf<@CRLF><@SETCOOKIES><@CRLF>">
> > >>> >> > </@EXCLUDE><@COLUMN "articles.art_blob" ENCODING=NONE>
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > <@comment>other content types-- VALUE="Content-type:
> > >>> >> > image/jpeg,
> > >
> > >>> >> > text/html </@comment>
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > Troy
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> >> > From: Troy Sosamon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:32 AM
> > >>> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> >> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db?
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > I have done it using R:tango, IIS5 and W2k.  R:tango is
> > >>> Tango2000
> > >>> >> > and an R:base database.
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > I am not sure about how your DB handles the blobs, but
> > >>> to load the
> > >>> >> > files, I upload the the file to a temp file on the
> > >>> server and then
> > >>> >> > do a directdbms
> > >>> >> > command to put the file into the database.
> > >>> >> > Pulling the pdf out if you write it to a temp file on the 
> > >>> >> > server and link to that file it is very easy.
> > >>> >> > It is a little trickier, but can be done where you 
> pull the 
> > >>> >> > file and send it
> > >>> >> > directly to the browser w/o needing to put it in a file on 
> > >>> >> the server.
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > Troy Sosamon
> > >>> >> > Denver, Co.
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> >> > From: Wilcox, Jamileh (HSC) 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:08 AM
> > >>> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> >> > Subject: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db?
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > Tango2000, W2K server, IIS5, SQL2K
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > I'm building an application to search and display 
> lots of PDF 
> > >>> >> > files.  My preference would be to store the files in the
> > >>> database,
> > >>> >> > rather than try
> > >>> >> > to organize and keep track of all the separate 
> files.  Does 
> > >>> >> > anyone know if this method will work with PDF 
> files?  If so, 
> > >>> >> > has
> > >>> anyone done a
> > >>> >> > similar app?  I'm having problems getting the 
> files loaded & 
> > >>> >> > displayed - I'm not sure if I'm doing it wrong, or if it's 
> > >>> >> > just not
> > >>> >> going to work.
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > Thanks for any suggestions!
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > jamileh
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > 
> > >>> >> > 
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