Hey Bengt! Yes, it seems to be a MSSQL/Witango combination - Bill (and others) say it works fine with MySQL. Your experience matches mine - you can work with binary files in MSSQL if you use M$ tools, but not with Witango.
Did you see Ben's suggestion about using MySQL just for the binary files? > -----Original Message----- > From: Bengt Bredin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:20 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: SV: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db? > > > > More info about pdf/MSSQL. > I made a small taf that from serverside read a pdf file (file > action) and updated my data column in the db. Then I read out > the data from VB and the pdf data is correct with nulls and > all but not if I read it from Witango. So it's only when > reading a blob with Witango which includes nulls that > we do have a problem. Question still remains to answer is if > this only affect MSSQL or is it a common issue ? > > > > Best regards > > Bengt Bredin > -------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > LabIT Solutions AB > Fagerstagatan 18 A > 163 94 Stockholm > SWEDEN > Tel : +46 8 621 36 32, Fax : +46 8 621 36 38, Mobile : +46 > 708 213 971 mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: Bengt Bredin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skickat: den 18 september 2003 11:16 > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ämne: SV: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db? > > Hey, Jamileh, Ben and Bill ! > > I found out that there isn't any problem to insert a pdf file > into a column with datatype text (>than xmbyte) in MSSQL 2000 > and read it out again. But only if you do it with a tool like > VB. We have tried it and we get exactly the same binary data > out including the null characters which often exists in a pdf > file. And that takes Mr Gates to a safe place. If I let my VB > program store a pdf file (with nulls) into the blob and then > tries to do a search in Witango from it, the > request$resultset[1,data] only includes the characters up to > the first null character. The problem seems to be > difficulties for Witango, ODBC, MSSQL to upload a pdf > including nulls, storing it or reading data from a blob > including nulls. It would be very interesting to see if some > of you could try this with mysql and a pdf including nulls. > Then we know if it's the combination Witango MSSQL or Witango > itself causing the problem. > > > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: Wilcox, Jamileh (HSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Skickat: den 17 september 2003 23:28 > Till: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ämne: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db? > > You know, that's an idea. I hadn't thought about setting up > a separate datasource for the files. Hmmmm........ > > :) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 4:24 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db? > > > > > > Hey, Jamileh, > > > > MYSQL is free and thanks to Bill, you have the code, just > > setup a second data source for the blobs :-) > > > > Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller > > Available for Witango Developement > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wilcox, Jamileh (HSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:53 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db? > > > > Yup, text and image columns can hold huge amounts of > > data...but you have to put it in 8KB at a time. Is that a > > great system, or what? > > > > *g* > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bill Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:51 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db? > > > > > > > > > As Seargeant Schultz said" "I know nothing" about MSSQL. > > I have had > > > issues with uploading blobs greater than 1MB into mysql (this > > > requires > > > the variable max_allowed_packet be set), and I presume there is a > > > parameter in MSSQL. > > > > > > But ... my copy of Microsoft SQL Server Administrator Guide says > > > binary columns are limited to 8000 bytes, though text and image > > > columns can be > > > 2^31. > > > > > > >Bill this is great, but are you working with MS SQL Server? > > > > > > > >The issue here is mainly inserting blobs over 8k not just > > > into any DB > > > >but MSSQL > > > > > > > > > > > >Ben Johansen - http://www.pcforge.com > > > >Authorized Witango & MDaemon Reseller > > > >Available for Witango Developement > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Bill Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:27 PM > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db? > > > > > > > >I realized I didn't explicitly answer your question: > > > > > > > >I can upload any file type into the db, and download it to > > a client. > > > >The only restriction is that the file extension be in the > > mime type > > > >table, a > > > > > > > >portion of which is below: > > > > > > > > id type extension > > > > 38 video/quicktime .mov > > > > 37 video/mpeg .mpg > > > > 36 text/xml .xml > > > > 35 text/tab-separated-values .tsv > > > > 34 text/sgml .sgm > > > > 33 text/rtf .rtf > > > > 32 text/richtext .rtx > > > > > > > > > > > >>Have you done this with __PDF__ files stored in __MSSQL__? > > > If so, how > > > >>are you loading the files into the db? > > > >> > > > >>There is more to this issue than just how to set the HTTP > > > header for > > > >>display of pdf files. I can read the file contents and > > > display as a > > > >>pdf; it's the database piece that causes a problem. I > > > suspect Bengt > > > >>is running into the same issues. > > > >> > > > >>Thanks. j > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>> From: Bill Conlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 2:41 PM > > > >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db? > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Here's what works for me: > > > >>> > > > >>> 1. Query my db (three tables for mime type, media meta > > data, and > > > >>> the > > > > > > > >>> media data itself -- but you could put this into one table) > > > >>> > > > >>> 2. Set up the request scope variables > > > >>> <@ROWS> > > > >>> <@ASSIGN NAME="type" SCOPE="request" VALUE=<@COLUMN > > "mime.type">> > > > >>> <@ASSIGN NAME="date" SCOPE="request" VALUE=<@COLUMN > > > >>> "media_description.date_modified">> > > > >>> <@ASSIGN NAME="size" SCOPE="request" VALUE=<@COLUMN > > > >>> "media.size">> <@ASSIGN NAME="filename" SCOPE="request" > > > >>> VALUE=<@COLUMN "media.filename">> <@ASSIGN NAME="file" > > > >>> SCOPE="request" VALUE=<@COLUMN "media.data">> </@ROWS> > > > >>> > > > >>> 3. Set up the HTTP header > > > >>> <@PURGERESULTS><@assign name="encodeResults" scope="request" > > > >>> value="false"><@ASSIGN NAME="httpHeader" SCOPE="request" > > > >>> encoding="none" VALUE="HTTP/1.1 200 OK<@CRLF>Server: Apache > > > >>> 2.0.046<@CRLF>Accept-Ranges: > > > >>> bytes<@CRLF>Content-Type: > > > @@request$type<@CRLF>Content-Disposition: > > > >>> inline; > filename=@@request$filename<@CRLF>Last-Modified: <@VAR > > > >>> NAME="date" scope="request" > > > format="datetime"><@CRLF>Content-Length: > > > >>> @@request$size<@CRLF><@CRLF>"><@VAR NAME="file" > SCOPE="request" > > > >>> ENCODING="none"> > > > >>> > > > >>> >Hiya Bengt! > > > >>> > > > > >>> >1. Check the binary data in your blob against your original > > > >>> file. How > > > >>> >are you putting the PDF in? > > > >>> > > > > >>> >2. Check the pdf binary data that is displayed against the > > > >>> binary data > > > >>> >in the original. > > > >>> > > > > >>> >I've still not gotten this to work properly, due to a null > > > >>> >character > > > > > > > >>> >used in the PDF format. That characters always > > > truncated the data > > > >>> >either at upload or at read; I haven't found a workaround > > > >>> yet. Other > > > >>> >folks said they had gotten it working, but they were either > > > >>> doing image > > > >>> >files rather than PDF, or were not on MSSQL. (I had to drop > > > >>> the issue > > > >>> >when I hadn't managed to resolve it after several days.) > > > >>> > > > > >>> >If you can give me more info about how your process > works, I'll > > > >>> >pull > > > > > > > >>> >the pertinent info I've collected and forward it. > > > >>> > > > > >>> >Good luck! > > > >>> >jamileh > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> >> -----Original Message----- > > > >>> >> From: Bengt Bredin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:28 AM > > > >>> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> >> Subject: SV: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db? > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> Hi all ! > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> I have tried out this example from Troy and Scott but > > > can't get > > > >>> >> it to work. It's probably some misunderstanding from > > me, but I > > > >>> >> try to get some help anyway. So I pull out my blob, > > a pdf file > > > >>> >> from the db (MSSQL) and use just a test taf to do this: > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> <@ASSIGN NAME="filedata" SCOPE="Local" > > > >>> >> VALUE="@@request$resultset[1,data]"> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> <@EXCLUDE> > > > >>> >> <@ASSIGN NAME=ENCODERESULTS VALUE=FALSE SCOPE=LOCAL> > > <@ASSIGN > > > >>> >> NAME=HttpHeader SCOPE=LOCAL > > > >>> >> VALUE="Content-type: > > > application/pdf<@CRLF><@SETCOOKIES><@CRLF>"> > > > >>> >> </@EXCLUDE><@var request$filedata ENCODING=NONE> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> Now I would like Adobe reader to start inside my > > > browser and show > > > >>> >> me the pdf, but instead I get: Client Error The response > > > >>> >> received from the application server is invalid. On some > > > >>> >> occasions it shows the pdf binary data instead. > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> Hope for better knowledge after San Diego trip Cheers... > > > >>> >> Bengt Bredin, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sweden > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> Great work Troy, > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> Something to add, that I discovered the hard way, is > > that some > > > >>> >> versions of the Adobe Plug-in for PDF may not > > > initialize properly > > > >>> >> because the plug-in needs to know the size of the > > > document before > > > >>> >> hand. > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> So you might want to add "Content-Length:" to the HTTP > > > Response > > > >>> >> header, something like: > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> <@ASSIGN NAME=ENCODERESULTS VALUE=FALSE SCOPE=LOCAL> > > <@ASSIGN > > > >>> >> NAME=HttpHeader SCOPE=LOCAL VALUE="Content-type: > > > >>> >> application/pdf<@CRLF>Content-Length: <@LENGTH > STR='<@COLUMN > > > >>> >> <@DQ>articles.art_blob<@DQ> > > > >>> >> ENCODING=NONE>'><@CRLF><@SETCOOKIES><@CRLF>"><@COLUMN > > > >>> >> "articles.art_blob" > > > >>> >> ENCODING=NONE> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> Of course it might be more efficent to capture the > > > <@LENGTH> on > > > >>> >> the upload and store it a separate field next to the > > > >>> PDF content. > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> Hope this helps. Cheers.... > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> Scott Cadillac, > > > >>> >> Witango.org - http://witango.org > > > >>> >> 403-281-6090 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> >> -- > > > >>> >> Information for the Witango Developer Community > > > >>> >> --------------------- > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> XML-Extranet - http://xmlx.ca > > > >>> >> 403-281-6090 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> >> -- > > > >>> >> Well-formed Development (for hire) > > > >>> >> --------------------- > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > -----Original Message----- > > > >>> >> > From: Troy Sosamon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:59 AM > > > >>> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> >> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db? > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > Here is the trickey part that you need. > > > >>> >> > Use a javascrip and open a new window and call a search > > > >>> action that > > > >>> >> > returns a blob and use this code: > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > <@EXCLUDE> > > > >>> >> > <@ASSIGN NAME=ENCODERESULTS VALUE=FALSE > > SCOPE=LOCAL> <@ASSIGN > > > >>> >> > NAME=HttpHeader SCOPE=LOCAL > > > >>> >> > VALUE="Content-type: > > > >>> >> > application/pdf<@CRLF><@SETCOOKIES><@CRLF>"> > > > >>> >> > </@EXCLUDE><@COLUMN "articles.art_blob" ENCODING=NONE> > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > <@comment>other content types-- VALUE="Content-type: > > > >>> >> > image/jpeg, > > > > > > > >>> >> > text/html </@comment> > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > Troy > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > -----Original Message----- > > > >>> >> > From: Troy Sosamon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:32 AM > > > >>> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> >> > Subject: RE: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db? > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > I have done it using R:tango, IIS5 and W2k. R:tango is > > > >>> Tango2000 > > > >>> >> > and an R:base database. > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > I am not sure about how your DB handles the blobs, but > > > >>> to load the > > > >>> >> > files, I upload the the file to a temp file on the > > > >>> server and then > > > >>> >> > do a directdbms > > > >>> >> > command to put the file into the database. > > > >>> >> > Pulling the pdf out if you write it to a temp file on the > > > >>> >> > server and link to that file it is very easy. > > > >>> >> > It is a little trickier, but can be done where you > > pull the > > > >>> >> > file and send it > > > >>> >> > directly to the browser w/o needing to put it in > a file on > > > >>> >> the server. > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > Troy Sosamon > > > >>> >> > Denver, Co. > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > -----Original Message----- > > > >>> >> > From: Wilcox, Jamileh (HSC) > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:08 AM > > > >>> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> >> > Subject: Witango-Talk: PDF stored in db? > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > Tango2000, W2K server, IIS5, SQL2K > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > I'm building an application to search and display > > lots of PDF > > > >>> >> > files. My preference would be to store the files in the > > > >>> database, > > > >>> >> > rather than try > > > >>> >> > to organize and keep track of all the separate > > files. Does > > > >>> >> > anyone know if this method will work with PDF > > files? If so, > > > >>> >> > has > > > >>> anyone done a > > > >>> >> > similar app? I'm having problems getting the > > files loaded & > > > >>> >> > displayed - I'm not sure if I'm doing it wrong, > or if it's > > > >>> >> > just not > > > >>> >> going to work. > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > Thanks for any suggestions! > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > jamileh > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > >>> >> > __________ > > > >>> >> > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > >>> >> > __________ > > > >>> >> > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > >>> >> > __________ > > > >>> >> > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > >>> >> __________ > > > >>> >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > >>> >> __________ > > > >>> >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >_____________________________________________________________ > > > >>> __________ > > > >>> >_ > > > >>> >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Bill Conlon > > > >>> > > > >>> To the Point > > > >>> 345 California Avenue Suite 2 > > > >>> Palo Alto, CA 94306 > > > >>> > > > >>> office: 650.327.2175 > > > >>> fax: 650.329.8335 > > > >>> mobile: 650.906.9929 > > > >>> e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> web: http://www.tothept.com > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> ______________________________________________________________ > > > >>> __________ > > > >>> TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > >>> > > > >>____________________________________________________________ > > > __________ > > > >>_ > > > >_ > > > >>TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >Bill Conlon > > > > > > > >To the Point > > > >345 California Avenue Suite 2 > > > >Palo Alto, CA 94306 > > > > > > > >office: 650.327.2175 > > > >fax: 650.329.8335 > > > >mobile: 650.906.9929 > > > >e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >web: http://www.tothept.com > > > > > > > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > > > __________ > > > >_ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > > > __________ > > > >_ > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Conlon > > > > > > To the Point > > > 345 California Avenue Suite 2 > > > Palo Alto, CA 94306 > > > > > > office: 650.327.2175 > > > fax: 650.329.8335 > > > mobile: 650.906.9929 > > > e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > web: http://www.tothept.com > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > __________ > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > __________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > __________ > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > > ______________________________________________________________ > __________ > TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf > ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/maillist.taf
