That makes sense, but for me, mysql was not even a possibility until
5. So when 5 was released in FC5 thats when I made my move. I use
innodb for everything, because just about everything I do requires
enterprise level db, with transactions, replication, and all that
good stuff. So far, FC5 and mysql 5, have been the most stable of any
platform of OS or DB I have ever used. I don't think I will ever use
windows or mac os for a server environment again. And when you load
FC with TEXT only, so no gui, KDE or gnome, it is all business, all
the resources for your applications. And with x64, which FC5 and FC6
take full advantage of, its the best bang for the buck. IMHO of course.
Oh and did I mention, its cheap?
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On Feb 22, 2007, at 10:06 PM, William M Conlon wrote:
Or use CentOS, which is the free version of Redhat Enterprise,
currently equivalent to RHEL 4. If you need something very stable,
go with CentOS. I think CentOS is also roughly equivalent to
Fedora Core 4.
Though I use Fedora Core 4 myself, it's for historical reasons.
When RH abandoning its desktop/workstation users at RH9, Fedora was
offered as the alternative. It was the only path available then
for patches via a package manager.
Personally, I like Fedora, because I find it has newer packages
that I would like to use, but the 6 month release interval is too
short for me. My approach has been to wait until legacy support
stops (no more security patches) and then jump several versions.
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On Feb 22, 2007, at 9:49 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Excellent suggestion. That's exactly what I needed to know.
Thank you very much.
Mike Bravu
From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 11:24
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: OT: Witango hosting + DB
Also, if you use something like fedora core, and use there
RELEASED repos, and only update with YUM, you should be good.
Fedora only releases versions of mysql, that are VERY tested.
Don't go to mysql.com, and download the latest and greatest, rely
on fedora or ubuntu, or whatever to manage that for you.
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On Feb 22, 2007, at 10:43 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Alan, Robert, and anybody else that might still respond, thank
you very much for your input.
I am looking to replace a MS SBS 2003 + Witango which worked
great so far with something else that is reasonably reliable,
fast, easy to use and supported.
This current system worked great, in more then four years it did
not break once (it it true, the load is not very heavy), but I
cannot legally use it anymore. MS does not allow more than 75
users on SBS, no matter how much the customer is willing to pay.
How ridiculous is that?!
So I am looking to alternatives that will make the licensing
issue disappear.
PostgreSQL seems to be basically "no strings attached", which
makes it a first preference.
MySQL has a dual licensing policy, and I am afraid to not get
into something that later on will prove to be another nightmare.
Another issue is that the code changes are not immediately made
available to the "Community Server" (or, at least, CS is not the
main focus of the company).
Thanks again.
Mike Bravu
From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 08:19
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: OT: Witango hosting + DB
I have not used postgreSQL with it, but one thing to consider
with wtiango. I have not found witango to just work perfectly
with any DB. Even when other products seem to. It was one of the
main reasons, I changed to mysql, and then fell in love for many
other reasons. I spent months/years chasing down issues that
usually only occur under very heavy load. Under very heavy load,
there are issues of witango hanging and even crashing. Witango 5
was notorious for this, and 5.5 was much improved, but it still
happens. But I have found it to be almost non-existent with
mysql. Probably because witango tests with mysql, and probably a
couple of others.
All that to say, if your stuff is at all intensive, set up some
scenarios, and hammer it on the bench, and see how witango likes
it first. I only tested a few DBs, but I found witango/mysql
combo to be about the most trouble free, and then probably
witango/mssql.
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On Feb 22, 2007, at 1:15 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Does anybody have any experience in using PostgreSQL + Witango ?
How does it compare with using MySQL?
Would you recommend PostgreSQL ?
[Sorry, I know this is OT but I checked the Witango-Talk archive
and could not find any message related to "PostgreSQL".]
Thank you,
Mike Bravu
From: Robert Garcia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 11:22
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: SPAM-MED: RE: Witango-Talk: OT: Witango hosting
As far as ease of use, we purchased Navicat enterprise, that
solved any "MS is easier" issues. And one more thing, we never
chose mysql, especially for peach, because it was free. Peach,
actually told me no before, because it was free. They just
couldn't figure out, how anything free, could be any good.
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On Feb 19, 2007, at 8:17 AM, Jason Pamental wrote:
Stefan,
Well put. I think that there is enough research out there
supporting the speed and capabilities of both engines to argue
forever. Simply put though, MySQL is in use in enough high-
traffic and mission critical enterprise installations that any
blanket statements should be taken with a grain of salt. Rick -
I don't mean to take away from your own research - we all have
to rely in many cases on our own perceptions and experiences.
But we should all try to refrain from making statements that
can so easily undermine what others in the community are doing.
I would think that if Robert Garcia were to weigh in on this he
could spell out a very convincing case for MySQL given the
tremendous load his projects put it under on a daily basis. Of
course, I use SQL Server (2000 and 2005) as well as MySQL
daily, and the ease of management and use with SQL Server is
amazing, so I tend to lean towards SQL Server simply because I
have it - but were I faced with having to purchase the licenses
myself, I'm not sure I'd feel compelled to do so.
Cheers everyone-
Jason
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On Feb 19, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Stefan Gonick wrote:
Hi Rick,
Those arguments are a far cry from "yech". My point was just
that Mysql is a reasonable
database and it's free. It doesn't deserve that kind of
negative comment, which indirectly
casts aspersions on With. Obviously, their site doesn't need a
super high performance
database, so a free one is just fine.
Stefan
At 10:13 AM 2/19/2007, you wrote:
Hi Stefan,
I won’t get into a debate, but on Windows in a high-volume
production environment Microsoft SQL server is the fastest
hands-down, followed by Pervasive SQL a close second.
I’ve never bench-marked MSSQL on Windows vs. MYSQL on Linux,
but the research I have done stated that MSSQL is faster.
Also, I’ve done lots of work with MYSQL and in an environment
where the traffic is high, MSSQL doesn’t perform well. Again,
my experience has been on Windows.
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From: Stefan Gonick [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February 19, 2007 10:45 AM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: SPAM-MED: RE: Witango-Talk: OT: Witango hosting
What is "yech" about Mysql? Since version 4 it has been a
quite usable database.
Stefan
At 09:37 AM 2/19/2007, you wrote:
I can’t believe they use MYSQL! Yech!
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Subject: Witango-Talk: OT: Witango hosting
This is a bit off topic. I'm looking for a hosting service
for my personal use. No, not business related. *laughs* If
any of you offer site hosting and Witango app hosting (and
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