Phil, I second Robert Shubert's sentiment here.
I'm glad that you have resurfaced. I'm glad to hear that you are still working on version 6. I very much want to use that version and will pay for it. However, could you please give us some idea as to when you think it might be released? The last update you gave was October 2008. That's nearly a year ago. Thank you, Stefan At 10:08 AM 9/23/2009, Robert Shubert wrote:
Phil, Glad (amazed) to see you reply to such an inflammatory thread. I believe you know this, but I want to say it again, the first part you said about not being a good communicator, PR, marketer, etc. goes directly against those of us who are trying to keep Witango as part of our business model. In fact, it would be better for us all if you didn't license, didn't support, scrapped version 6 and was simply responsive to the community in general. Yes, it's THAT important. I'm not talking about up to the minute tweets, but you made an excellent example below when you said that the latest Apple Java update moved the product along closer to release. I believe that you mean the updates in OS X 10.6. If that is in fact true, then you've known about this improvement for weeks now (possibly months). If you had took the first step and posted that gem of information, without prompting, it would've have been very reassuring to us all. If you are moving ahead with version 6, then please, post occasional updates, even if simple "109 more things to do" type messages. Re-release the betas (studio and server) so that we enthusiasts can be involved. Update your site, setup a v6 blog, setup a beta forum, do something to help us know where things stand, even if they are moving at snails pace, movement is vitally important to our businesses and peace of mind. And if you don't have the time to do that work, or manage the forum, or make those announcements, then please ask for some help. A number of people on this forum, including myself, would gladly volunteer our time to help you keep this product alive and healthy. Robert Tronics -----Original Message----- From: Phil Wade [mailto:p...@witango.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:27 AM To: witango-talk@witango.com Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: Witango 6 Update You can cross of Scenarios 1 to 3. Scenario 4 is is close to the mark. Scenario 5, still not sure about this one. Jury is still out on whether Witango will be the death of me! To those still using Witango and wanting to, As I have admitted previously I do not live a public life, I am not a communicator, marketer or PR guru, I am just the guy that is in the background getting on with what I need to get done. Witango has not been shelved. Admittedly it is has not been on a fast track but it is still alive. Yes, it is still a niche product and will continue to be. It is still part of our business model and we are still providing licensing and support for version 5.5 to those that require it and we will continue to do so while there is a demand for it right down to the very last user. Witango 6 will be available to those that still want to use it. With the latest OS X Java update we now have a fully functioning dev studio that is able to replace the old carbon Mac studio. ... To Robert G, What you do and whether you listening to your peers is entirely up to you. It is your decision and I am sure you will balance the pros and cons of your actions. Personally I have never been judged so often and harshly by someone who does not know me, have any contact with me, have any understanding of me, understanding of the way I lead my life or run my business, what motivates me personally or professionally or knows what is going on in my private life. May I offer you some wisdom - a long time ago I learnt not to make judgements without compassion and to never judge someone's actions until I knew what there motives or situation was. This wisdom has served me well time and time again. You have told us all on several occasions that you are moving on to the PHP community so if there is nothing positive keeping you here please move on with your professional life. I am sure there are many more positive things you can dedicate your time and energy to there than beating up on Witango/Me here. Regards Phil On 23/09/2009, at 9:51 PM, WebDude wrote: > Scenario 1 - Phil is letting the product die... Perhaps we could group > together and purchase the code and then we could have truly Open > Source > Licensing and rework the code ourselves. > > Scenario 2 - Phil is in over his head and is trying to find someone to > purchase the product to pick up where he left off. > > Scenario 3 - Phil wants to claim bankruptcy and the only way he can > is by > showing massive losses on the product (not sure if this is feasible in > Australia). > > Scenario 4 - Phil is still wrangling through the legal process and > got fed > up with all the negativity on this list. > > Scenario 5 - Phil is dead. ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf ________________________________________________________________________ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Go to http://www.witango.com/developer/maillist.taf
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