If it was doing results caching, it would prob be quicker than 34ms. A
simple small query like that should never be over 100ms. .NET is not
going to cache results by default. The DB may cache queries by
default, but that would help either app server. The bottom line is
that .NET and PHP have take HUGE leaps forward when it comes to native
DB connectivity and optimization. This is one of the areas where I
have spent most of my time profiling and optimizing and researching
over the years. Witango is just way behind. I would venture further to
say v6 isn't going to help. v6 will use JDBC which will have trouble
competing with .NET native connections and PHP mysqli. (not php mysql,
but mysqli)
--
Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
rgar...@bighead.net - rgar...@eventpix.com
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
On Oct 6, 2009, at 8:33 AM, Anthony Humphreys wrote:
For one search action, anything less 100ms and I generally leave it
be.
But at 500ms or more I'm pulling (what little is left of) my hair
out trying to fix the issue, as it is a real drain on performance,
and has a negative impact on the user's (and client's) perception of
the application I've built.
Very long lists, very large results sets, and aggregated reports may
take more than 500ms. Everything else, I try to get below that 100ms
threshold. I generally find that when the SQL/DBMS are optimised,
the rest just falls into place.
If the same SQL is running against the same DBMS but takes 500+ms in
Witango and is almost free in .NET, then I would suspect that .NET
is doing results caching.
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Ted Wolfley <t...@ogdengroup.com>
wrote:
Witango speed stayed about the same on repeat queries and the
datsourcelife is set at the default.
The ajax taf is tiny and using the Direct_DBMS for the query via a
tcf. The database connection is opened at login to the site.
I guess we will go with the .NET version until we see what Witango 6
has to offer.
Thanks
Ted
From: Robert Garcia [mailto:wita...@bighead.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:12 AM
To: witango-talk@witango.com
Subject: Re: Witango-Talk: autocomplete speed comparison
ODBC and persistent connections would be my guess, as long as ALL
OTHER variables are equal. Repeat the query a few times, and see if
it is faster. Witango is most likely using ODBC connector and .NET
is using a more native, optimized connection. Witango will always
take longer on its FIRST query to a connection, due to the overhead
of opening a connection from scratch. Witango will then hold that
connection in memory and try to reuse it, saving time on subsequent
queries. This seems efficient, but it actually ends up wasting
memory on both the witango side and especially the db server side.
Check the documentation on the datasourcelife configuration variable.
--
Robert Garcia
President - BigHead Technology
VP Application Development - eventpix.com
13653 West Park Dr
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 x222 fax: 530.645.4040
rgar...@bighead.net - rgar...@eventpix.com
http://bighead.net/ - http://eventpix.com/
On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:44 AM, Ted Wolfley wrote:
Hi,
We created a simple ajax autocomplete retrieving name and company
from a sql server 2005 table on another server. We compared 2
different options.
Both servers are Windows 2003 32-bit
Using Witango 5.5, the query request took 528ms.
Using ASP.Net, the query request took 34 ms
The sql statement is the same for both queries
Wondering if someone could give an explanation why there is so much
difference in speed and is there a way to speed up the Witango query.
Ted Wolfley
Lead Internet and Database Programmer
The Ogden Group of Rochester
phone: (585) 321 1060 x23
fax: (585) 321 0043
t...@ogdengroup.com
www.ogdengroup.com
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