Hey all, It would never have expected that a thread on the wt-interest mailing list can turn into a (natural) language discussion bordering Belgian politics (having "Walloon" and "Flemish" in one sentence equals debate in our little kingdom !).
Please leave these discussions for a random politics Internet forum ! (and to the topic: I do not think anyone wanted to offend anyone so do not feel offended) Regards, koen 2010/2/26 mobi phil <[email protected]>: > Maurice, > > The many Flemish I know in Belgium, they love to say they are Flemish > and not Dutch, and they love to say that they speak Flemish and not > Dutch. But this is someway very human like... Myself I have n > citizenships. If somebody blames X I like to say I am Y. If they say X > is the best, then I like to be X :).. I think this is the same with > Flemish :). They like to blame the Dutch, but if there is something > good about Dutch, they like to be Dutch :) > > By the way... your name is not very Flemish would say a Wallonian :) > > Now about Flemish speaking more correctly Dutch than Dutch, or being > fluent in Dutch, that is a topic for an infinite debate. Speaking a > language means speaking it without accent, or better said speaking > with the same intonations, sound patterns etc. etc. (Graggggggggggg > ... you know that appetizing sound nice sound Dutch make). I think > anybody with the even worst musical ears and without having previously > heard the two languages, they would realize that there is some > difference between the two. If you mean writing it, indeed that makes > less difference, as the letters and words are the same, not as the > sounds :). Besides that I heard not only one dutch complaining that > they would not understand at all certain Flemish dialects from > Belgium. I wonder that these arrogant guys from the Dutch company > would prefer to hire a Flemish that speaks heavy dialect, or a > non-Dutch or non-Flemish who does not speak natively Dutch, but > learned and speaks dutch quite well among some other few European > languages. > > So as I really hope that this list contains today more than 500 > people, 1 Dutch, 1 Flemish wit Wallonian name, and 2 emweb guys is > still less than 1% :) > > So guys... lets be ueber alles Europeans, and let's do not hang on > stupid arguments like language etc. etc. I think there was something > behind putting webtoolkit.eu under .eu and not under .be or .flemish > or .dutch. > > I CC-d the email to the list, as I find it ridiculous as a company > jumps here to make add for there job opening (which is not bad at the > end), but treats people in a ridiculously arrogant way. > > mobi phil > > > >> On Dutch TV there is this program called "Tien voor Taal" where >> where the Dutch and the Flemish (Belgians) compete on who >> best speaks the Dutch language. >> >> Unscientific statistics I gathered by watching this program suggest that >> the Belgians actually speak Dutch much more correctly than the Dutch do. :-) >> >> Since Emweb is a Belgian company I would not be surprised to find >> them quite fluent in Dutch. Especially when they have Dutch names like >> "Wim" and "Koen". >> >> So, you might need to adjust that 1% somewhat. :-) >> >>> anyway, I think everybody agrees the languages of the list should >>> probably stay English :) >>> >>> >> >> Absolutely. >> >> Cheers, >> Maurice >> >> PS: Color me Dutch >> >>> mobi phil >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Wouter Dingemanse <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > I am Dutch! >>> > >>> > Maar ik ben nog niet goed in C++. Ben nu een c# ontwikkelaar. We maken >>> > wel >>> > hele mooie Webapplicaties bij mijn huidige werkgever, vooral gericht op >>> > bedrijfsprocessen. Mail maar als er interresse is. >>> > >>> > gr, >>> > Wouter >>> > >>> > 2010/2/26 mobi phil <[email protected]> >>> >> >>> >> Hello Frank, >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Well, I will not try to prove my Dutch knowledge, as you "a priori" >>> >> assumed that my Dutch is as bad as your Slovak :). What percentage of >>> >> the people on this list do you think speak better than me Dutch? I >>> >> answered your email in English as you addressed your email in English >>> >> to the group. >>> >> >>> >> I wish you good luck in finding somebody with that specialized >>> >> knowledge and "with (nearly)native Dutch capabilities", and maybe one >>> >> day you will realize that one of the reasons why European economy is >>> >> going to hell is that everybody is fanatic with its native language. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> mobi phil >>> >> >>> >> P.S. >>> >> As most of the users on the witty list are probably non-Dutch >>> >> speakers, I could not resist not to CC the witty-interest list. Sorry >>> >> if somebody would feel offended. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:45 PM, info <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> > Hi Mobi, >>> >> > >>> >> > Thanks for the offer. We preferably would have someone with (nearly) >>> >> > native Dutch capabilities, but if we need extra help we'll keep you >>> >> > in mind, >>> >> > >>> >> > Regards, >>> >> > >>> >> > Frank Tiekink >>> >> > >>> >> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >>> >> > Van: mobi phil [mailto:[email protected]] >>> >> > Verzonden: donderdag 25 februari 2010 13:20 >>> >> > Aan: Frank Tiekink (IDE) >>> >> > CC: [email protected] >>> >> > Onderwerp: Re: [Wt-interest] Job Offering Wt Developer >>> >> > >>> >> > my prev. email was intended only for Frank Tiekink... >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > hELlO, >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > I am very busy at the moment, but would be happy to work on your >>> >> > project. Before going too deep into the details, could you please >>> >> > tell >>> >> > me if you are looking for somebody who has to work full time in NL, >>> >> > or >>> >> > you could imagine a collaboration where only some meetings in NL >>> >> > would >>> >> > be necessary. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > regards >>> >> > mobi phil >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Frank Tiekink (IDE) >>> >> > <[email protected]> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> Hello Wt'ers, >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Our company is searching for a Wt Developer (or a C++ developer with >>> >> >> Qt >>> >> >> Background) for our development team. His/her major goal is to help >>> >> >> convert >>> >> >> our current application system to a Wt based web application. 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