Hey Maurice,
I agree with Koen. This discussion really has nothing to do with Wt, either
with the C++.
PS: I dont want to offend anyone and I personally welcome humor, when it is
appropriate
and does not distract from work.
Regards,
Dmitriy Igrishin
2010/2/26 Maurice Gittens <[email protected]>
> Hey Koen,
>
> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Koen Deforche <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> It would never have expected that a thread on the wt-interest mailing
>> list can turn into a (natural) language discussion bordering Belgian
>> politics (having "Walloon" and "Flemish" in one sentence equals debate
>> in our little kingdom !).
>>
>> Please leave these discussions for a random politics Internet forum !
>>
>>
> Did you miss the smileys?
>
> Cheers,
> Maurice
>
>
>
>> (and to the topic: I do not think anyone wanted to offend anyone so do
>> not feel offended)
>>
>> Regards,
>> koen
>>
>> 2010/2/26 mobi phil <[email protected]>:
>> > Maurice,
>> >
>> > The many Flemish I know in Belgium, they love to say they are Flemish
>> > and not Dutch, and they love to say that they speak Flemish and not
>> > Dutch. But this is someway very human like... Myself I have n
>> > citizenships. If somebody blames X I like to say I am Y. If they say X
>> > is the best, then I like to be X :).. I think this is the same with
>> > Flemish :). They like to blame the Dutch, but if there is something
>> > good about Dutch, they like to be Dutch :)
>> >
>> > By the way... your name is not very Flemish would say a Wallonian :)
>> >
>> > Now about Flemish speaking more correctly Dutch than Dutch, or being
>> > fluent in Dutch, that is a topic for an infinite debate. Speaking a
>> > language means speaking it without accent, or better said speaking
>> > with the same intonations, sound patterns etc. etc. (Graggggggggggg
>> > ... you know that appetizing sound nice sound Dutch make). I think
>> > anybody with the even worst musical ears and without having previously
>> > heard the two languages, they would realize that there is some
>> > difference between the two. If you mean writing it, indeed that makes
>> > less difference, as the letters and words are the same, not as the
>> > sounds :). Besides that I heard not only one dutch complaining that
>> > they would not understand at all certain Flemish dialects from
>> > Belgium. I wonder that these arrogant guys from the Dutch company
>> > would prefer to hire a Flemish that speaks heavy dialect, or a
>> > non-Dutch or non-Flemish who does not speak natively Dutch, but
>> > learned and speaks dutch quite well among some other few European
>> > languages.
>> >
>> > So as I really hope that this list contains today more than 500
>> > people, 1 Dutch, 1 Flemish wit Wallonian name, and 2 emweb guys is
>> > still less than 1% :)
>> >
>> > So guys... lets be ueber alles Europeans, and let's do not hang on
>> > stupid arguments like language etc. etc. I think there was something
>> > behind putting webtoolkit.eu under .eu and not under .be or .flemish
>> > or .dutch.
>> >
>> > I CC-d the email to the list, as I find it ridiculous as a company
>> > jumps here to make add for there job opening (which is not bad at the
>> > end), but treats people in a ridiculously arrogant way.
>> >
>> > mobi phil
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Dutch TV there is this program called "Tien voor Taal" where
>> >> where the Dutch and the Flemish (Belgians) compete on who
>> >> best speaks the Dutch language.
>> >>
>> >> Unscientific statistics I gathered by watching this program suggest
>> that
>> >> the Belgians actually speak Dutch much more correctly than the Dutch
>> do. :-)
>> >>
>> >> Since Emweb is a Belgian company I would not be surprised to find
>> >> them quite fluent in Dutch. Especially when they have Dutch names like
>> >> "Wim" and "Koen".
>> >>
>> >> So, you might need to adjust that 1% somewhat. :-)
>> >>
>> >>> anyway, I think everybody agrees the languages of the list should
>> >>> probably stay English :)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Absolutely.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Maurice
>> >>
>> >> PS: Color me Dutch
>> >>
>> >>> mobi phil
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Wouter Dingemanse <
>> [email protected]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > I am Dutch!
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Maar ik ben nog niet goed in C++. Ben nu een c# ontwikkelaar. We
>> maken
>> >>> > wel
>> >>> > hele mooie Webapplicaties bij mijn huidige werkgever, vooral gericht
>> op
>> >>> > bedrijfsprocessen. Mail maar als er interresse is.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > gr,
>> >>> > Wouter
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 2010/2/26 mobi phil <[email protected]>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Hello Frank,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Well, I will not try to prove my Dutch knowledge, as you "a priori"
>> >>> >> assumed that my Dutch is as bad as your Slovak :). What percentage
>> of
>> >>> >> the people on this list do you think speak better than me Dutch? I
>> >>> >> answered your email in English as you addressed your email in
>> English
>> >>> >> to the group.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I wish you good luck in finding somebody with that specialized
>> >>> >> knowledge and "with (nearly)native Dutch capabilities", and maybe
>> one
>> >>> >> day you will realize that one of the reasons why European economy
>> is
>> >>> >> going to hell is that everybody is fanatic with its native
>> language.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> mobi phil
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> P.S.
>> >>> >> As most of the users on the witty list are probably non-Dutch
>> >>> >> speakers, I could not resist not to CC the witty-interest list.
>> Sorry
>> >>> >> if somebody would feel offended.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:45 PM, info <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> >> > Hi Mobi,
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Thanks for the offer. We preferably would have someone with
>> (nearly)
>> >>> >> > native Dutch capabilities, but if we need extra help we'll keep
>> you
>> >>> >> > in mind,
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Regards,
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Frank Tiekink
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>> >>> >> > Van: mobi phil [mailto:[email protected]]
>> >>> >> > Verzonden: donderdag 25 februari 2010 13:20
>> >>> >> > Aan: Frank Tiekink (IDE)
>> >>> >> > CC: [email protected]
>> >>> >> > Onderwerp: Re: [Wt-interest] Job Offering Wt Developer
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > my prev. email was intended only for Frank Tiekink...
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > hELlO,
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > I am very busy at the moment, but would be happy to work on your
>> >>> >> > project. Before going too deep into the details, could you please
>> >>> >> > tell
>> >>> >> > me if you are looking for somebody who has to work full time in
>> NL,
>> >>> >> > or
>> >>> >> > you could imagine a collaboration where only some meetings in NL
>> >>> >> > would
>> >>> >> > be necessary.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > regards
>> >>> >> > mobi phil
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Frank Tiekink (IDE)
>> >>> >> > <[email protected]>
>> >>> >> > wrote:
>> >>> >> >> Hello Wt'ers,
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Our company is searching for a Wt Developer (or a C++ developer
>> with
>> >>> >> >> Qt
>> >>> >> >> Background) for our development team. His/her major goal is to
>> help
>> >>> >> >> convert
>> >>> >> >> our current application system to a Wt based web application. We
>> are
>> >>> >> >> situated in Central Netherlands, and we are specialized in
>> software
>> >>> >> >> for
>> >>> >> >> Maintenance Management, Field Service and Facility Management,
>> for
>> >>> >> >> more
>> >>> >> >> have
>> >>> >> >> a look at our product web site www.mcmain.nl
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Knowledge & Experience with SQL (MS-SQL, Oracle, MySQL), XML and
>> Web
>> >>> >> >> development are relevant. Speaking and reading of the English &
>> >>> >> >> Dutch
>> >>> >> >> language is necessary.
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Individuals can respond directly to [email protected].
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Regards,
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >> Frank Tiekink
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
>> >>> >> >>
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>> >>> >> >
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>> >
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