Hi John,

My apologies for the late reply, integration testing is keeping me busy.

Chris is correct; we just want to leverage the capabilities of the MSI to
get the database installed. The MSI appears to be doing a nice job - as long
as you want to install only a single database. I am open to alternatives.

What do you mean with "modify the maintenance process"?

I like the batch script option you suggest.

For the completeness of discussion; Chris also mentioned off-line that one
could create a fake MSI that doesn't actually install any components or
publish any information; I also like this option.

Thank you,

Daniel


On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:17 PM, John Nannenga
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Any particular reason they do this?  (I'm not bashing folks or anything
> like that; I'm simply genuinely curious what the advantage would be in doing
> this)
>
>
> As Chris mentioned, you could modify the maintenance process to support
> your needs, leaving the product installed.
>
> If that option doesn't appeal to you and you simply want your ideal way of
> "the MSI would un-install itself after it finished creating the database",
> here's a rather interesting option:
>
> Presuming your SQL installation routine doesn't use a rollback script...
>  you could, force failure after your SQL installation is complete (which
> would then 'rollback the installation' and leave your DB stuff intact while
> not leaving the MSI [shim] installed).  Modify the UI end dialogs
> accordingly.  (though the MSI error code returned would still be failure,
> but if nothing's looking at that, what the heck, right?)
>
> Or if that's too corny, you could wrap the MSI; either an external UI
> handler [a bit of work] or simply a batch script [or simply a utility] to
> perform the installation, then when completed, perform a silent
> un-installation.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Zak
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:00 PM
> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
>  Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multiple Installs without Un-Install?
>
> I spoke to three different teams in our organization and they all use an
> MSI
> to install a database. I decided to try this as an alternative to the DOS
> batch script I used in the previous version of our software.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 10:14 AM, John Nannenga <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > > Ideally, the MSI would un-install itself after it finished creating the
> > > database.
> >
> > This might be off topic, but curiosity got the best of me; given that to
> be
> > the case, why would this be in an MSI at all?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Zak
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:05 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; General discussion for Windows
> > Installer XML toolset.
> > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multiple Installs without Un-Install?
> >
> > The user wants to have the ability to install a database from any remote
> > machine. Also, additional databases would be installed at some other
> point
> > in time (e.g. perhaps 3 months later the user decides they need a second
> > database).
> >
> > Ideally, the MSI would un-install itself after it finished creating the
> > database.
> > Cheers,
> > Daniel
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 6:19 AM, Christopher Painter <
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > You could modify the maintenance UI experience to have an option for
> > > creating additional database instances which would then execute your
> > script
> > > again but I'm wondering if it wouldn't be simpler to just write a small
> > > application utility and put it in the start menu to allow a user to
> > perform
> > > database management functions like creating additional named database
> > > instances.
> > >
> > > How do you feel about that?
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 7/23/08, Daniel Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Daniel Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multiple Installs without Un-Install?
> > > > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 1:28 AM
> > >  > Hi Christopher,
> > > >
> > > > I need multiple instances only of the database.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Daniel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Message: 9
> > > > > Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:31:10 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > > From: Christopher Painter
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multiple Installs without
> > > > Un-Install?
> > > > > To: "General discussion for Windows Installer XML
> > > > toolset."
> > > > >        <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > > > > Message-ID:
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > > > >
> > > > > Windows Installer supports multiple instance
> > > > installation, but the question
> > > > > I have is do you need multiple instances of your
> > > > product or only multiple
> > > > > instances of your database?
> > > > >
> > > > > Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering
> > > > Blog
> > > > > Have a hot tip, know a secret or read a really good
> > > > thread that deserves
> > > > > attention? E-Mail Me
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Mon, 7/21/08, Daniel Zak
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: Daniel Zak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Subject: [WiX-users] Multiple Installs without
> > > > Un-Install?
> > > > > > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > > > Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 11:51 PM
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I created a script to install an SQL Server
> > > > database. A
> > > > > > user needs to be
> > > > > > able to run the script multiple times to install
> > > > multiple
> > > > > > databases.
> > > > > > However, the script requires the user to first
> > > > un-install
> > > > > > the product (which
> > > > > > does not delete the database) before being able
> > > > to install
> > > > > > a new database.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there anything I can do to avoid requiring the
> > > > user to
> > > > > > explicitly
> > > > > > un-install the product?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I included an extract of the script as a text
> > > > file.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > Daniel
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