No, it's as brittle as the scripts failing to run due to an environmental issue on the client computer. What is they have a broken version of the Python interpreter installed? What if their security settings don't allow it to run?
It's not a question of how well written the code is... Well, not completely. :-) On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Konstantin Vlasenko < konstantin.vlase...@gmail.com> wrote: > It is as more brittle as less test you have :) > Of course this script should be automaticaly tested (by unit test or more > preferable by Acceptance test) as all other code :) > So I think it is not a point. > > 2009/7/16 Christopher Karper <christopher.kar...@gmail.com> > > > Scripting CAs are generally considered more brittle than any other kind > of > > CA, so they are not as preferred, IMO. > > > > However, that being said, I don't think that adding a Python script > > interpreter would be a terrible burden. I wouldn't make it part of the > > distribution, but you should be able to easily build yourself a WiX > > extension that includes your interpreter DLL, and stores the script text > in > > a table. > > > > It seems like a basic implementation would be fairly trivial, but I'm > > willing to bet the reality is substantially different, and you'll run > > headlong into issue after issue... But it could certainly be done. > > > > Chris > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:05 AM, Konstantin Vlasenko < > > konstantin.vlase...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > 1. You make a change (not a customer) in the custome environment. > > > 2. Add new test to your acceptance (regression) test suite. > > > 3. Make a new build. > > > 4. Bring it back to the customer if all tests a GREEN. > > > > > > *It has more sense to spend more time testing your installation on > > > different > > > environments before shipping* - How long you are going to test your > > > installation? Of course I am not going to make a crap. We have tested > > > automaticaly all stuff before sending it to a customer. But you never > > know > > > what can be on other side. > > > BTW: Had no problem with setup before. This idea came to me from a > > > production code itself. I have a huge success story to support the > > > different > > > customer environments. Due to avoiding compiled language where it > > > psoosible. > > > *Python will save the world! I don't know how. But it will! :)* > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/7/16 Yan Sklyarenko <y...@sitecore.net> > > > > > > > I don't think asking customer to open the MSI package in Orca and > > modify > > > > some code smells better. :) You increase the risk of leaving the user > > > > machine in the undefined state afterwards. It's much more preferable > to > > > > design the rollback properly and keep the log verbose. > > > > > > > > As for me, it has more sense to spend more time testing your > > > > installation on different environments before shipping. And provide a > > > > fixed install in a short term, if it is still necessary for someone. > > > > > > > > -- Yan > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Konstantin Vlasenko [mailto:konstantin.vlase...@gmail.com] > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:46 AM > > > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Python for the custom action > > > > > > > > With the scripting approach you can make the customization, bug > fixing > > > > on > > > > the customer side. > > > > You can use the ORCA and change the script on the fly. > > > > You don't have the such ability with the compiled dlls approach. You > > > > have > > > > to go back to your development environment, make changes and then you > * > > > > probably* can make the custome happy - Bad Smell :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/7/16 Yan Sklyarenko <y...@sitecore.net> > > > > > > > > > >> ... using a compliled dll for a custom action is a bad smell > > > > > Why do you think so? Just wondering. > > > > > > > > > > -- Yan > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Konstantin Vlasenko [mailto:konstantin.vlase...@gmail.com] > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 9:15 AM > > > > > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > > > > > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Python for the custom action > > > > > > > > > > Yes. I think it is good to use IronPython in the Windows world :) > > > > > The main point in my idea is to use only scripting language for > setup > > > > > developer. > > > > > I believe that using a compliled dll for a custom action is a bad > > > > smell. > > > > > We need to implement a wix extension (e.g. based on IronPython) to > > > > > support scripting approach. > > > > > BTW: Wix extension dlls are OK - remove duplications between > several > > > > > setup > > > > > projects:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/7/15 Brian Rogers <rogers.br...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Konstantin, > > > > > > > > > > > > You could develop a managed custom action and use IronPython if > > that > > > > > works > > > > > > for you. It would be good for the community to hear how your > > > > > development > > > > > > efforts went. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian Rogers > > > > > > "Intelligence removes complexity." - Me > > > > > > http://blogs.msdn.com/icumove <-- NEW > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Konstantin Vlasenko < > > > > > > konstantin.vlase...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a good idea to have an ability to write custom action on > > > > > Python > > > > > > same > > > > > > > as for VBScript or JScript. > > > > > > > I understand that the Windows Installer not going support this > > > > > (maybe > > > > > > > IronPython?). > > > > > > > But may we can to make an Wix extension? > > > > > > > What do you think? 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