To be honest I'd like this approach more as well (InstallShield e.g. does it and so would better fit into the Christopher Painter approach to incorporate IS bootstrapper + WiX MSI packages). But for now I didn't find a solution except renaming all the transforms.
Figuring out how to handle the CultureGroup cost me some time and, as I'm not soo deep in MSBuild targets, figuring out how to get the LCIDs (even if it's possible ?) would cost me additional time which is surely better invested in just renaming the files which is a 5 minute job :-) 2011/3/18 Michael Tissington <michael_tissing...@ciqual.com>: > Instead of using CultureGroup.Identity is there a way to use the Product > Language (for example 1033) ? > > I'd like torch to create a file name Language.mst > > Thanks. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] > Sent: 18 March 2011 12:18 > To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multilanguage install > > They are used by the underlying WiX MSBUild target which is responsible for > building the solution in MSBuild. IIRC it is C:\Program Files > (x86)\MSBuild\Microsoft\WiX\v3.x\wix200x.targets for > NET35 and wix2010.targets for .NET 40. > > > 2011/3/18 Michael Tissington <michael_tissing...@ciqual.com>: >> Too bad ... >> >> What are the properties for CultureGroup ? >> Where does this come from? >> >> Thanks. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] >> Sent: 18 March 2011 11:49 >> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. >> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multilanguage install >> >> Nope don't think so as WiSubStg.vbs + WiLangId.vbs are part of the >> Windows SDK and WiX will use Burn for Multilanguage Bootstrapper >> installers. And as the Transform Embedding is undocumented I don't >> assume WiX will write wrappers for such a purpose. >> >> >> To do so you must e.g. write an own C# task fulfilling the actions >> from these 2 VBscripts. Think this should be possible using DTF. It's >> adding the >> transform(s) to a binary stream and modify the Summary Information > stream... >> >> >> >> 2011/3/18 Michael Tissington <michael_tissing...@ciqual.com>: >>> Thanks got it :) >>> >>> Are there any additional hidden gems (undocumented tasks)to do the >>> additional two task to embed the mst files into a single msi? >>> Currently I'm using WiSubStg.vbs and WiLangID.vbs >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: 18 March 2011 10:32 >>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. >>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multilanguage install >>> >>> you must build all languages of the MSI pacakge from one project. >>> Think there is no additional modification necessary as the AfterBuild >>> target starts when there already exist the different MSIs (e.g. >>> en-US\MySetupProject.msi, de-DE\MySetupProject.msi and >>> ja-JP\MySetupProject.msi). >>> >>> BTW: be sure not using a autogenerated ProductCode ("*") to not >>> transform this by the transforms as well! >>> >>> >>> >>> 2011/3/18 Michael Tissington <michael_tissing...@ciqual.com>: >>>> Thanks for the detailed info .. >>>> >>>> I'm trying to implement this. This seems to require that the en-US >>>> is built first. >>>> How do I make this happen? >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: 18 March 2011 10:08 >>>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. >>>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multilanguage install >>>> >>>> You must add a torch task to the AfterBuild target in the wixproj file. >>>> >>>> Following a description assuming you are using VS2010 English, your >>>> solution is called MySetupProject and you want to create for an >>>> english MSI the needed MSTs: >>>> Solution Explorer -> Choose the Setup Project -> Right click -> >>>> Unload Project -> Right click -> Edit MySetupProject.wixproj >>>> >>>> Uncomment >>>> <Target Name="AfterBuild"> >>>> </Target> >>>> >>>> and modify it to e.g. >>>> >>>> <Target Name="AfterBuild"> >>>> <Torch >>>> Condition="%(CultureGroup.Identity) != 'en-US'" >>>> ToolPath="$(WixToolPath)" >>>> BaselineFile="$(TargetDir)en-US\$(TargetFileName)" >>>> >>>> UpdateFile="$(TargetDir)%(CultureGroup.OutputFolder)$(TargetFileName)" >>>> OutputFile="$(TargetDir)en-US\%(CultureGroup.Identity).mst" >>>> AdditionalOptions="-t Language" /> >>>> </Target> >>>> >>>> >>>> Reload project and build ... >>>> >>>> This "undocumented" torch task is used here to build the >>>> transform(s) (no matter how much Cultures you have set) except for the > "base" >>>> language en-US. >>>> >>>> >>>> @Chris: For your wish Checkbox: Commenting and uncommenting is >>>> necessary here. Thanks for your hint regarding WMIC. Use now the >>>> functionality of ProcessExplorer to show the passed MSI parameters >>>> :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2011/3/18 Michael Tissington <michael_tissing...@ciqual.com>: >>>>> This looks great - where do I put this? >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Tobias S [mailto:tobias.s1...@gmail.com] >>>>> Sent: 18 March 2011 09:07 >>>>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. >>>>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multilanguage install >>>>> >>>>> <Target Name="AfterBuild"> >>>>> <Torch >>>>> Condition="%(CultureGroup.Identity) != '$(DefaultLanguage)'" >>>>> ToolPath="$(WixToolPath)" >>>>> BaselineFile="$(TargetDir)$(DefaultLanguage)\$(TargetFileName)" >>>>> >>>> UpdateFile="$(TargetDir)%(CultureGroup.OutputFolder)$(TargetFileName)" >>>>> >>>>> OutputFile="$(TargetDir)$(DefaultLanguage)\%(CultureGroup.Identity) >>>>> $ >>>>> ( >>>>> T >>>>> ransfo >>>>> rmExt)" >>>>> AdditionalOptions="-t Language" /> >>>>> </Target> >>>>> >>>>> for the WiX Proj ? This generates transforms in the "DefaultLanguage" >>>>> output folder. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2011/3/17 Christopher Painter <chr...@deploymentengineering.com>: >>>>>> Oh I already know how it works and can get it to work. :-) I was >>>>>> just wondering if there was a better way to generate the >>>>>> transforms then post build events that call torch. Votive has >>>>>> some nice msbuild support for encapsulating >>>>>> >>>>>> the underlying calls to the wix tools I just wish it has a little >>>>>> checkbox next >>>>>> >>>>>> to cultures to build ( generate language transforms ). >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW, you don't need a "man in the middle" to sniff out the command >>>>>> line, you can use wmic ( windows management instrumentation >>>>>> console >>>>>> ) >>>>> to do that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Christopher Painter, Author of Deployment Engineering Blog Have a >>>>>> hot tip, know a secret or read a really good thread that deserves >>>>>> attention? E-Mail Me >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>>> From: Tobias S <tobias.s1...@gmail.com> >>>>>> To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. >>>>>> <wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >>>>>> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:52:53 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multilanguage install >>>>>> >>>>>> @Chris: Am I understanding you right ? You want to apply a >>>>>> transform for the "base" language, e.g. english MSI + english MST >>>>>> + spanish MST ? For InstallShield as they build by default a >>>>>> transform for the default language ? If yes did you check with a >>>>>> "man in the middle tool" (custom msiexec.exe in directory of >>>>>> setup.exe which shows its calling command line) what the >>>>>> installshield setup.exe calls in case of the default Language ? >>>>>> (esp. if they already apply a transform or not ?) Not sure right >>>>>> now whether this works or not but I can check if Andreas Kerl >>>>>> wrote something in his book about this and the abilities of torch > here. >>>>>> >>>>>> As a sample if you want e.g. 8 transforms you only need 2 MSIs in >>>>>> different languages and then can create an XML diff and modify >>>>>> this for the other 6 languages and from these generate the >>>>>> transforms again. This might reduce build time as not building the >>>>>> MSIs just for transform generation is needed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2011/3/17 Tobias S <tobias.s1...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>> Francisco, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When you get it working with the transform msiexec /i >>>>>>> installer.msi TRANSFORMS=":1034". (I'm wondering about the >>>>>>> ":1034" - >> should be e.g. >>>>>>> 1034.mst???) this means it is working with your produced spanish >>>>>>> transform applied to the english one. So when going back to >>>>>>> InstallSite your problems can result in problems in step 3. or 4. . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In general and why I don't like this approach very much: you must >>>>>>> rely on the way here this undocumented feature retrieves the >>>>>>> current OS language. If something goes wrong here it is difficult >>>>>>> to track down the real issue. So did you try the package on >>>>>>> several spanish systems ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Btw: Spanish if I remember right this is the OS where the LCID is >>>>>>>1034 and additionally other LCIDs exist. Maybe that causes >>>>>>>problems in detecting a spanish OS with these embedded transforms. >>>>>>>Read >>>>>>>http://windows-installer-xml-wix-toolset.687559.n2.nabble.com/LCID >>>>>>>s >>>>>>>- >>>>>>>o f >>>>>>>-the-supported-languages-of-WixUIExtension-tp5910168p5910168.html >>>>>>>l >>>>>>> So maybe use some other language first to track down the problem >>>>>>>and set the OS language as described in InstallSite. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd recommend you to use e.g. German and 1031 for your testing. >>>>>>> Please do exactly following: >>>>>>> 1. Build the MSI + transform >>>>>>> 2. test it with msiexec /i setup.msi TRANSFORMS=1031.mst >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If working >>>>>>> 3. embed the transform with >>>>>>> wisubstg.vbs Setup.msi 1031.mst 1031 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 4. ORCA: View -> Summary Information... -> there change Languages >>>>>>> to "1033,1031" (without quotes and without empty spaces between >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> numbers) and save the >>>>>>> package afterwards) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Change the computer language of the system to German (Gerrmany) >>>>>>> as described on InstallSite. If still not working: Interesting is >>>>>>> the output of step 3. Please post it here. Be aware that you work >>>>>>> exactly on the generated packages and no dirty ones where >>>>>>> possibly something went wrong... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regarding Arabic: Think of only localize text and not "RTL" the UIs. >>>>>>> One of our arabic speaking guys told me that these people are >>>>>>> used of not well RTL modified UIs. If you still want to do so: >>>>>>> Get an installShield demo (they offer well RTL layout, think only >>>>>>> the graphic on the start dlg and finish dialog is turned) and >>>>>>> modify the WiX dialogs in WiX sources folder >>>>>>> src\ext\UIExtension\wixlib (approx >>>>>>> 25 - >>>>>>> 30 dialogs and User Interface "sequences"). Think it should be >>>>>>> possible here as well to embed a transform for the modifications >>>>>>> even here this transform then contains a completely modified UI. >>>>>>> But as never done also expect some issues when transforming with >>>>>>> a torch generated transform for arabic (not sure whether -t >>>>>>> Language is enough). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As already stated think of using a bootstrapper for the language >>>>>>> transform application (e.g. dotnetinstaller) instead of the >>>>>>> embedded approach. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> Tobias >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2011/3/17 Francisco Gabriel Malbrán <fgmalb...@gmail.com>: >>>>>>>> Thanks Michael. I've tried your solution as well but still no >> results. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can any body please attach an empty/demo version of your >>>>>>>> multilanguage msi to test it out in my computer? 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