Thanks, guys. To answer your question, both of them (both the actual WiX installer and any installers that I create in the future once I get to be a better coder), should be more screen reader friendly. But that does not mean that screen readers should have to rely on a standard UI since most screen readers; JAWS, Window-Eyes, System Access and so on, can't use WPF; I was doing some WPF demos in a book, and aside from the visual studio designer not being accessible with them (not a huge deal since in my mind, everyone should at least learn XAML to make things more precise), and the buttons, text fields, and what not read fine as well as keyboard input being accepted. But just how difficult would adding those property values and text be to the installer? EyeCandy can play nice with screen readers if people want it to.
-----Original Message----- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 2:34 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Was the fancy Wix 3.6 installer made in WIX I think you missed my point about WixStandardBootstrapperApplication, this is the *only* UI that comes out of the box with WiX - the "fancy UI" was written specifically for WiX, you can use it as a template but you would have to write the code. If you want to see what WixStandardBootstrapperApplication looks like see here http://neilsleightholm.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/wix-bootstrapper-application.html - not as pretty but it is a standard Windows UI so should work with your screen reader. If you would like a simple install to check I can upload some samples. Neil -----Original Message----- From: Katherine Moss [mailto:katherine.m...@gordon.edu] Sent: 04 October 2012 18:54 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Was the fancy Wix 3.6 installer made in WIX Okay, guys, I don't know how to explain this any further without demonstrating for you the problem. It has nothing to do with what language the underlying program is written in, and it has nothing to do with the operating system. Firstly, I refuse to use alternative UIs that haven't been updated, and instead, you should expect a demo of exactly what I see when trying to have a screen reader interact with it; basically, in a nutshell, what happens, is that the screen reader will read all information, yet all keyboard input (such as using the enter key instead of double clicking which I don't see much of a difference in anyway) doesn't work, and then even using the specialized cursor routing functions, the keystrokes don't seem to be getting sent to the application. I guess that's a UIA issue; I don't know since I'm brand new to coding. -----Original Message----- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 4:13 PM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Was the fancy Wix 3.6 installer made in WIX You don't have to use a C# UI there is also a much more standard UI - WixStandardBootstrapperApplication http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix3/wixstdba_intro.htm. From what I remember of screen readers (admittedly based on work I did 20 years ago) I think they should be compatible. Neil -----Original Message----- From: Katherine Moss [mailto:katherine.m...@gordon.edu] Sent: 03 October 2012 19:53 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Was the fancy Wix 3.6 installer made in WIX You see, it's not a bug; it's a problem with screen readers being able to communicate properly with the interface; custom controls are harder for screen readers to recognize. I honestly don't know how to "report" this one since it would require me to demo the issue; or else you wouldn't understand. I could demo it for you on Youtube if you want. The only real optimal way to explain specialized software in my opinion is via demos. -----Original Message----- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 1:17 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Was the fancy Wix 3.6 installer made in WIX We'd happily take bugs and/or contributions to help improve it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. 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