Yeah, when running the MSIs, they run with the exact same command as the burn 
EXEs:

cmd /c start MyInstaller.[exe or msi] -quiet -norestart -log MyInstaller.log

The only burn log lines I've found that seem to have command-line-like 
parameters associated with the MSI are these:

When upgrading 1.0.1 over 1.0.0:
MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:20:806]: Executing op: 
Header(Signature=1397708873,Version=500,Timestamp=1120100491,LangId=1033,Platform=0,ScriptType=1,ScriptMajorVersion=21,ScriptMinorVersion=4,ScriptAttributes=1)
Action start 12:04:20: InstallFinalize.
MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:20:806]: Executing op: 
ProductInfo(ProductKey={GUID1},ProductName=MyProduct,PackageName=MyProduct_v1.0.1.msi,Language=1033,Version=16777217,Assignment=1,ObsoleteArg=0,ProductIcon=icoLogo,,PackageCode={GUID2},,,InstanceType=0,LUASetting=0,RemoteURTInstalls=0,ProductDeploymentFlags=3)

When upgrading 1.0.2 over 1.0.1:
MSI (s) (B8:80) [12:08:24:951]: Executing op: 
Header(Signature=1397708873,Version=500,Timestamp=1120100621,LangId=1033,Platform=0,ScriptType=1,ScriptMajorVersion=21,ScriptMinorVersion=4,ScriptAttributes=1)
Action start 12:08:24: InstallFinalize.
MSI (s) (B8:80) [12:08:24:951]: Executing op: ProductInfo(ProductKey={GUID 
3},ProductName=MyProduct,PackageName=MyProduct_v1.0.2.msi,Language=1033,Version=16777218,Assignment=1,ObsoleteArg=0,ProductIcon=icoLogo,,PackageCode={GUID
 4},,,InstanceType=0,LUASetting=0,RemoteURTInstalls=0,ProductDeploymentFlags=3)

These don't really tell me much. Do they tell you anything, or maybe these 
aren't the right lines?

One way or another, the bundle must be doing (or not doing) something 
differently (and wrong) than when the MSI does its own thing correctly.

Alain 

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] 
Sent: June 4, 2013 11:45
To: afor...@cmu.edu; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'; 
'Hoover, Jacob'
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

One difference is that burn will only run the execute install sequence as it is 
running the MSI silently, when you run just the MSIs have you tried running 
them silently to see if you get the same issue - you can see the command line 
that burn is using in the log files.

I had the service issue before burn and IIRC it was related to running the MSI 
silent (I was using another bootstrapper at the time).

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] 
Sent: 04 June 2013 16:36
To: Neil Sleightholm; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'; 
'Hoover, Jacob'
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

Yes, I have 4 ServiceControl elements in the MSI, but up until this issue came 
up, the MSI had absolutely no problems stopping all the services, removing 
them, and then installing the new versions, and starting them. But that was 
before I was using burn...so I just tried the same process (install 1.0.0, 
upgrade to 1.0.1, then upgrade to 1.0.2, all w/o restarts) with only the MSI of 
our software (unbundled), and the problem does NOT seem to happen. In the ARP, 
there is only the 1.0.2, and no leftover 1.0.1. Furthermore, if I try to 
uninstall 1.0.2, it does so without complaint.

So this suggests there's something with the bundling/burn process that's 
messing things up, so let's take a look:

<?xml version='1.0' encoding='windows-1252'?> <Wix 
        xmlns='http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi'
        xmlns:bal="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/BalExtension";
        xmlns:util="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/UtilExtension";
>

<?ifndef PRODUCTVERSION?>
        <?error PRODUCTVERSION must be defined ?> <?endif ?>

<Bundle
        Name="MyBundle" 
        UpgradeCode="MYGUID" 
        Version="$(var.PRODUCTVERSION)"
        Copyright="Copyright © Us"
        IconSourceFile="lib/Logo.ico"
        Manufacturer="Us"
        DisableModify="yes"
>       
        <BootstrapperApplicationRef 
Id="WixStandardBootstrapperApplication.RtfLicense" >
                <bal:WixStandardBootstrapperApplication
                        LicenseFile="License.rtf"
                        LogoFile="lib\Logo.png"
                        SuppressOptionsUI="yes"
                        ThemeFile="MyRtfTheme.xml"
                />
        </BootstrapperApplicationRef>
        
        <!-- Abort installation if not running with administrator privileges -->
        <bal:Condition Message="This installer requires administrator 
privileges to run.">
                Privileged <!--OR AdminUser-->
        </bal:Condition>
        
        <!-- Abort installation if not running on Windows 7 or 8 -->
        <bal:Condition Message='Sorry, but this software only supports Windows 
7 or Windows 8.'>
                VersionNT >= v6.1 AND v7.0 > VersionNT
        </bal:Condition>
        
        <Chain DisableSystemRestore="yes">
                <PackageGroupRef Id="pkgJRE7" />
                <MsiPackage
                        Id="pkgMySoftware"
                        DisplayName="MySoftware"
                        Cache="no"
                        Compressed="yes"
                        Permanent="no"
                        SourceFile="MySoftware.msi"
                        Visible="no"
                        Vital="yes"
                ></MsiPackage>
        </Chain>
</Bundle>
</Wix>

So as can be seen by Visible="no" in the MsiPackage, I don't want to show both 
the MSI and the bundle's entries in the ARP. Is this a mistake?

Nothing else strikes me as odd or wrong, but I'm pretty new to burn.

Neil, did you notice the service-related problems when you transitioned from a 
single MSI to a burn bundle, like I am here?

Alain

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com]
Sent: June 4, 2013 02:09
To: afor...@cmu.edu; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.; 
'Hoover, Jacob'
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

Do you have more than one ServiceContol elements in your MSI? I found in the 
past that Windows Installer (not WiX) only supports one (or it might have been 
one per service id), this may have been fixed but is worth checking (try 
writing a simple MSI that just stops services and check they are stopped).

What I have resorted to is using a custom action to run "net stop" to stop 
services. The other thing you see is that the service gets marked as disabled 
and then the install cannot install a new copy (I see this every time I upgrade 
iTunes).

Since using burn I am using a support MSI that just stops all the services 
before the main MSI runs, this seems to work much more reliably.

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu]
Sent: 04 June 2013 00:40
To: 'Hoover, Jacob'; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

None of the services are inter-dependent (one of the features of our system), 
and here's what the ServiceElements look like:

<ServiceControl
        Id="ServiceId"
        Name="ServiceName"
        Remove="uninstall"
        Start="install"
        Stop="both"
        Wait="yes"
/>

So wait was set to yes for all of them. And looking in the logs that each of 
the services generate, they do all shut down in a timely fashion.

Any other thoughts?

Alain

-----Original Message-----
From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com]
Sent: June 3, 2013 14:27
To: afor...@cmu.edu; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.
Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

>From
>http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa373667(v=vs.8
>5).aspx

351 = ERROR_FAIL_SHUTDOWN
Some applications could not be shut down. The AppStatus of the RM_PROCESS_INFO 
structures returned by the RmGetList function contain updated status 
information.

I'd suggest looking at your ServiceControl elements.  Are the services 
interdependent (IE does stopping one stop another)? Do you have Wait=no on any 
of them?

-----Original Message-----
From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 12:52 PM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue

We've encountered a curious problem when our bundle auto upgrades. When our 
client software dials home and detects that it is outdated, it downloads the 
newest version (1.0.1), and runs it with the following command:

cmd /c start MyUpToDateBundle.exe -quiet -norestart -log MyUpToDateBundle.log

This works fine and upgrades the software. However, if I then immediately try 
to uninstall the (upgraded, 1.0.1) software, it fails with a message saying 
that a restart is needed. Furthermore, if a second upgrade (1.0.2) occurs 
before a restart, the software is successfully upgraded, but there are two 
entries in the Programs and Features or Add/Remove Programs (ARP), the previous 
version (1.0.1), and the current version (1.0.2).

This shouldn't happen. There should be only the most recent/currently installed 
version (1.0.2) in the ARP. Furthermore, we don't know what part of our 
software would request a restart, because it clearly updates and runs just fine 
immediately without a restart. We also do not recall having this problem when 
we were using an MSI, but curiously, the logs suggest that it's the packaged 
MSI that's requesting the restart:

...
MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:15:942]: RESTART MANAGER: Will attempt to shut down and 
restart applications in no UI modes.
MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:15:942]: RESTART MANAGER: Detected that the service 
MyService1 will be stopped due to a service control action authored in the 
package before the files are updated. So, we will not attempt to stop this 
service using Restart Manager MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:15:942]: RESTART MANAGER: 
Detected that the service MyService2 will be stopped due to a service control 
action authored in the package before the files are updated. So, we will not 
attempt to stop this service using Restart Manager MSI (s) (B8:B0) 
[12:04:15:942]: RESTART MANAGER: Detected that the service MyService3 will be 
stopped due to a service control action authored in the package before the 
files are updated. So, we will not attempt to stop this service using Restart 
Manager MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:15:942]: RESTART MANAGER: Detected that the 
service MyService4 will be stopped due to a service control action authored in 
the package before the files are updated. So, we will not attempt to stop this  
service using Restart Manager MSI (c) (60:48) [12:04:15:980]: RESTART MANAGER: 
Session opened.
MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:16:041]: RESTART MANAGER: Failed to shut down all 
applications in the service's session. Error: 351 MSI (c) (60:48) 
[12:04:16:041]: Disallowing shutdown.  Shutdown counter: 0 MSI (c) (60:48) 
[12:04:16:041]: RESTART MANAGER: Successfully shut down all applications that 
held files in use.
...
MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:20:760]: Propagated Reboot to the client/parent install.
MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:20:760]: Value of RebootAction property is MSI (s) 
(B8:B0) [12:04:20:760]: Windows Installer requires a system restart. Product 
Name: MyProduct. Product Version: 1.0.0. Product Language: 1033. Manufacturer: 
Us. Type of System Restart: 1. Reason for Restart: 1.

Property(N): ReplacedInUseFiles = 1
CustomAction  returned actual error code -1 (note this may not be 100% accurate 
if translation happened inside sandbox) MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:20:762]: 
Skipping action: SetRemovingForUpgrade (condition is false) ...
MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:584]: Product: MyProduct -- Installation completed 
successfully.

MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:585]: Windows Installer installed the product. 
Product Name: MyProduct. Product Version: 1.0.1. Product Language: 1033. 
Manufacturer: Us. Installation success or error status: 0.

MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:585]: Value of RebootAction property is MSI (s) 
(B8:4C) [12:04:28:585]: Windows Installer requires a system restart. Product 
Name: MyProduct. Product Version: 1.0.1. Product Language: 1033. Manufacturer: 
Us. Type of System Restart: 2. Reason for Restart: 0.

MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:585]: Product: MyProduct. Restart required. The 
installation or update for the product required a restart for all changes to 
take effect.  The restart was deferred to a later time.

MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:586]: Deferring clean up of packages/files, if any 
exist MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:586]: MainEngineThread is returning 3010 MSI 
(s) (B8:B4) [12:04:28:588]: RESTART MANAGER: Session closed.
MSI (s) (B8:B4) [12:04:28:591]: RESTART MANAGER: Previously shut down 
applications have been restarted.
MSI (s) (B8:B4) [12:04:28:592]: RESTART MANAGER: Session closed.

I found two things curious about these logs. First, it claims that it failed to 
shut down all applications, but also thinks they all shut down (which I'm 
pretty certain they did):

MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:16:041]: RESTART MANAGER: Failed to shut down all 
applications in the service's session. Error: 351 MSI (c) (60:48) 
[12:04:16:041]: Disallowing shutdown.  Shutdown counter: 0 MSI (c) (60:48) 
[12:04:16:041]: RESTART MANAGER: Successfully shut down all applications that 
held files in use.

Second, the Type of System Restart and Reason for Restart seems to change:

MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:20:760]: Windows Installer requires a system restart. 
Product Name: MyProduct. Product Version: 1.0.0. Product Language: 1033. 
Manufacturer: Us. Type of System Restart: 1. Reason for Restart: 1.
...
MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:585]: Windows Installer requires a system restart. 
Product Name: MyProduct. Product Version: 1.0.1. Product Language: 1033. 
Manufacturer: Us. Type of System Restart: 2. Reason for Restart: 0.

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out what those type and reason 
codes represent. In any case, it seems to think that the restart is needed 
because some files in use were replaced:

Property(N): ReplacedInUseFiles = 1

But I don't see how that can be, because our services do get shutdown 
correctly. Maybe it's not waiting long enough (even though it really doesn't 
take long at all)?

Any ideas why this might be happening and how we could prevent recently 
upgraded versions of our software from being restart-locked in this way?

Alain


***************************************
Alain Forget, Ph.D.
Postdoctoral Researcher
CyLab, Carnegie Mellon University
afor...@cmu.edu
http://cups.cs.cmu.edu/~aforget/
***************************************




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