Yeah, when running the MSIs, they run with the exact same command as the burn EXEs:
cmd /c start MyInstaller.[exe or msi] -quiet -norestart -log MyInstaller.log The only burn log lines I've found that seem to have command-line-like parameters associated with the MSI are these: When upgrading 1.0.1 over 1.0.0: MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:20:806]: Executing op: Header(Signature=1397708873,Version=500,Timestamp=1120100491,LangId=1033,Platform=0,ScriptType=1,ScriptMajorVersion=21,ScriptMinorVersion=4,ScriptAttributes=1) Action start 12:04:20: InstallFinalize. MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:20:806]: Executing op: ProductInfo(ProductKey={GUID1},ProductName=MyProduct,PackageName=MyProduct_v1.0.1.msi,Language=1033,Version=16777217,Assignment=1,ObsoleteArg=0,ProductIcon=icoLogo,,PackageCode={GUID2},,,InstanceType=0,LUASetting=0,RemoteURTInstalls=0,ProductDeploymentFlags=3) When upgrading 1.0.2 over 1.0.1: MSI (s) (B8:80) [12:08:24:951]: Executing op: Header(Signature=1397708873,Version=500,Timestamp=1120100621,LangId=1033,Platform=0,ScriptType=1,ScriptMajorVersion=21,ScriptMinorVersion=4,ScriptAttributes=1) Action start 12:08:24: InstallFinalize. MSI (s) (B8:80) [12:08:24:951]: Executing op: ProductInfo(ProductKey={GUID 3},ProductName=MyProduct,PackageName=MyProduct_v1.0.2.msi,Language=1033,Version=16777218,Assignment=1,ObsoleteArg=0,ProductIcon=icoLogo,,PackageCode={GUID 4},,,InstanceType=0,LUASetting=0,RemoteURTInstalls=0,ProductDeploymentFlags=3) These don't really tell me much. Do they tell you anything, or maybe these aren't the right lines? One way or another, the bundle must be doing (or not doing) something differently (and wrong) than when the MSI does its own thing correctly. Alain -----Original Message----- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] Sent: June 4, 2013 11:45 To: afor...@cmu.edu; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'; 'Hoover, Jacob' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue One difference is that burn will only run the execute install sequence as it is running the MSI silently, when you run just the MSIs have you tried running them silently to see if you get the same issue - you can see the command line that burn is using in the log files. I had the service issue before burn and IIRC it was related to running the MSI silent (I was using another bootstrapper at the time). Neil -----Original Message----- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: 04 June 2013 16:36 To: Neil Sleightholm; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'; 'Hoover, Jacob' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Yes, I have 4 ServiceControl elements in the MSI, but up until this issue came up, the MSI had absolutely no problems stopping all the services, removing them, and then installing the new versions, and starting them. But that was before I was using burn...so I just tried the same process (install 1.0.0, upgrade to 1.0.1, then upgrade to 1.0.2, all w/o restarts) with only the MSI of our software (unbundled), and the problem does NOT seem to happen. In the ARP, there is only the 1.0.2, and no leftover 1.0.1. Furthermore, if I try to uninstall 1.0.2, it does so without complaint. So this suggests there's something with the bundling/burn process that's messing things up, so let's take a look: <?xml version='1.0' encoding='windows-1252'?> <Wix xmlns='http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/wi' xmlns:bal="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/BalExtension" xmlns:util="http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/UtilExtension" > <?ifndef PRODUCTVERSION?> <?error PRODUCTVERSION must be defined ?> <?endif ?> <Bundle Name="MyBundle" UpgradeCode="MYGUID" Version="$(var.PRODUCTVERSION)" Copyright="Copyright © Us" IconSourceFile="lib/Logo.ico" Manufacturer="Us" DisableModify="yes" > <BootstrapperApplicationRef Id="WixStandardBootstrapperApplication.RtfLicense" > <bal:WixStandardBootstrapperApplication LicenseFile="License.rtf" LogoFile="lib\Logo.png" SuppressOptionsUI="yes" ThemeFile="MyRtfTheme.xml" /> </BootstrapperApplicationRef> <!-- Abort installation if not running with administrator privileges --> <bal:Condition Message="This installer requires administrator privileges to run."> Privileged <!--OR AdminUser--> </bal:Condition> <!-- Abort installation if not running on Windows 7 or 8 --> <bal:Condition Message='Sorry, but this software only supports Windows 7 or Windows 8.'> VersionNT >= v6.1 AND v7.0 > VersionNT </bal:Condition> <Chain DisableSystemRestore="yes"> <PackageGroupRef Id="pkgJRE7" /> <MsiPackage Id="pkgMySoftware" DisplayName="MySoftware" Cache="no" Compressed="yes" Permanent="no" SourceFile="MySoftware.msi" Visible="no" Vital="yes" ></MsiPackage> </Chain> </Bundle> </Wix> So as can be seen by Visible="no" in the MsiPackage, I don't want to show both the MSI and the bundle's entries in the ARP. Is this a mistake? Nothing else strikes me as odd or wrong, but I'm pretty new to burn. Neil, did you notice the service-related problems when you transitioned from a single MSI to a burn bundle, like I am here? Alain -----Original Message----- From: Neil Sleightholm [mailto:n...@x2systems.com] Sent: June 4, 2013 02:09 To: afor...@cmu.edu; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.; 'Hoover, Jacob' Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue Do you have more than one ServiceContol elements in your MSI? I found in the past that Windows Installer (not WiX) only supports one (or it might have been one per service id), this may have been fixed but is worth checking (try writing a simple MSI that just stops services and check they are stopped). What I have resorted to is using a custom action to run "net stop" to stop services. The other thing you see is that the service gets marked as disabled and then the install cannot install a new copy (I see this every time I upgrade iTunes). Since using burn I am using a support MSI that just stops all the services before the main MSI runs, this seems to work much more reliably. Neil -----Original Message----- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: 04 June 2013 00:40 To: 'Hoover, Jacob'; 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.' Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue None of the services are inter-dependent (one of the features of our system), and here's what the ServiceElements look like: <ServiceControl Id="ServiceId" Name="ServiceName" Remove="uninstall" Start="install" Stop="both" Wait="yes" /> So wait was set to yes for all of them. And looking in the logs that each of the services generate, they do all shut down in a timely fashion. Any other thoughts? Alain -----Original Message----- From: Hoover, Jacob [mailto:jacob.hoo...@greenheck.com] Sent: June 3, 2013 14:27 To: afor...@cmu.edu; General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue >From >http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa373667(v=vs.8 >5).aspx 351 = ERROR_FAIL_SHUTDOWN Some applications could not be shut down. The AppStatus of the RM_PROCESS_INFO structures returned by the RmGetList function contain updated status information. I'd suggest looking at your ServiceControl elements. Are the services interdependent (IE does stopping one stop another)? Do you have Wait=no on any of them? -----Original Message----- From: Alain Forget [mailto:afor...@cmu.edu] Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 12:52 PM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Upgrade uninstall restart issue We've encountered a curious problem when our bundle auto upgrades. When our client software dials home and detects that it is outdated, it downloads the newest version (1.0.1), and runs it with the following command: cmd /c start MyUpToDateBundle.exe -quiet -norestart -log MyUpToDateBundle.log This works fine and upgrades the software. However, if I then immediately try to uninstall the (upgraded, 1.0.1) software, it fails with a message saying that a restart is needed. Furthermore, if a second upgrade (1.0.2) occurs before a restart, the software is successfully upgraded, but there are two entries in the Programs and Features or Add/Remove Programs (ARP), the previous version (1.0.1), and the current version (1.0.2). This shouldn't happen. There should be only the most recent/currently installed version (1.0.2) in the ARP. Furthermore, we don't know what part of our software would request a restart, because it clearly updates and runs just fine immediately without a restart. We also do not recall having this problem when we were using an MSI, but curiously, the logs suggest that it's the packaged MSI that's requesting the restart: ... MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:15:942]: RESTART MANAGER: Will attempt to shut down and restart applications in no UI modes. MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:15:942]: RESTART MANAGER: Detected that the service MyService1 will be stopped due to a service control action authored in the package before the files are updated. So, we will not attempt to stop this service using Restart Manager MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:15:942]: RESTART MANAGER: Detected that the service MyService2 will be stopped due to a service control action authored in the package before the files are updated. So, we will not attempt to stop this service using Restart Manager MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:15:942]: RESTART MANAGER: Detected that the service MyService3 will be stopped due to a service control action authored in the package before the files are updated. So, we will not attempt to stop this service using Restart Manager MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:15:942]: RESTART MANAGER: Detected that the service MyService4 will be stopped due to a service control action authored in the package before the files are updated. So, we will not attempt to stop this service using Restart Manager MSI (c) (60:48) [12:04:15:980]: RESTART MANAGER: Session opened. MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:16:041]: RESTART MANAGER: Failed to shut down all applications in the service's session. Error: 351 MSI (c) (60:48) [12:04:16:041]: Disallowing shutdown. Shutdown counter: 0 MSI (c) (60:48) [12:04:16:041]: RESTART MANAGER: Successfully shut down all applications that held files in use. ... MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:20:760]: Propagated Reboot to the client/parent install. MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:20:760]: Value of RebootAction property is MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:20:760]: Windows Installer requires a system restart. Product Name: MyProduct. Product Version: 1.0.0. Product Language: 1033. Manufacturer: Us. Type of System Restart: 1. Reason for Restart: 1. Property(N): ReplacedInUseFiles = 1 CustomAction returned actual error code -1 (note this may not be 100% accurate if translation happened inside sandbox) MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:20:762]: Skipping action: SetRemovingForUpgrade (condition is false) ... MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:584]: Product: MyProduct -- Installation completed successfully. MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:585]: Windows Installer installed the product. Product Name: MyProduct. Product Version: 1.0.1. Product Language: 1033. Manufacturer: Us. Installation success or error status: 0. MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:585]: Value of RebootAction property is MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:585]: Windows Installer requires a system restart. Product Name: MyProduct. Product Version: 1.0.1. Product Language: 1033. Manufacturer: Us. Type of System Restart: 2. Reason for Restart: 0. MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:585]: Product: MyProduct. Restart required. The installation or update for the product required a restart for all changes to take effect. The restart was deferred to a later time. MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:586]: Deferring clean up of packages/files, if any exist MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:586]: MainEngineThread is returning 3010 MSI (s) (B8:B4) [12:04:28:588]: RESTART MANAGER: Session closed. MSI (s) (B8:B4) [12:04:28:591]: RESTART MANAGER: Previously shut down applications have been restarted. MSI (s) (B8:B4) [12:04:28:592]: RESTART MANAGER: Session closed. I found two things curious about these logs. First, it claims that it failed to shut down all applications, but also thinks they all shut down (which I'm pretty certain they did): MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:16:041]: RESTART MANAGER: Failed to shut down all applications in the service's session. Error: 351 MSI (c) (60:48) [12:04:16:041]: Disallowing shutdown. Shutdown counter: 0 MSI (c) (60:48) [12:04:16:041]: RESTART MANAGER: Successfully shut down all applications that held files in use. Second, the Type of System Restart and Reason for Restart seems to change: MSI (s) (B8:B0) [12:04:20:760]: Windows Installer requires a system restart. Product Name: MyProduct. Product Version: 1.0.0. Product Language: 1033. Manufacturer: Us. Type of System Restart: 1. Reason for Restart: 1. ... MSI (s) (B8:4C) [12:04:28:585]: Windows Installer requires a system restart. Product Name: MyProduct. Product Version: 1.0.1. Product Language: 1033. Manufacturer: Us. Type of System Restart: 2. Reason for Restart: 0. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out what those type and reason codes represent. In any case, it seems to think that the restart is needed because some files in use were replaced: Property(N): ReplacedInUseFiles = 1 But I don't see how that can be, because our services do get shutdown correctly. Maybe it's not waiting long enough (even though it really doesn't take long at all)? Any ideas why this might be happening and how we could prevent recently upgraded versions of our software from being restart-locked in this way? Alain *************************************** Alain Forget, Ph.D. Postdoctoral Researcher CyLab, Carnegie Mellon University afor...@cmu.edu http://cups.cs.cmu.edu/~aforget/ *************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get 100% visibility into Java/.NET code with AppDynamics Lite It's a free troubleshooting tool designed for production Get down to code-level detail for bottlenecks, with <2% overhead. 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