Could I please have a straightforward answer as to why WiX is changing the LogonUser from the logged on user to SYSTEM when InstallScope is set to perMachine on XP installs? On Win7 the LogonUser remains the logged on user.
Thank you. On 02/09/2014 02:43 PM, Phil Wilson wrote: > Some rambling comments: > > First thing: it's already been said but this whole thing of running > cmd.exe is a bad idea, especially when there is an alternative, the > WiX copyfile element . You should be using it, that's the point being > made, the built-in MSI capability of copying files, table driven, not > a custom action of any kind. > > So in the absence of InstallScope your XP install is running as per > user, and this will typically work on an XP system where user custom > actions are elevated. It will fail on a UAC box because custom > actions must run with the system account to be elevated, but it fails > on XP with the system account. > > So the common issue appears to be that your custom action fails when > run with the system account, but it needs to run with system to be > elevated on a UAC box. I don't know why that's failing because a) > Nobody uses a CA like that to do a copy, so there's no user experience > of it and b) It's a nasty Windows issue related to cmd.exe being > initiated under the local system account and things as basic as > whether privileges are transferred and if there's even a cmd.exe > available for the system account - why does the system account need > access to cmd.exe, an interactive command processor? At this point > it's no longer about WiX or MSI. > > I don't know if anyone has other ideas, but to use a dumb simile, it's > like being in a homebuilder's forum and asking about the best glue to > stick together the walls of your paper house. They'll tell you not to > do it and you won't get many replies because it's not something anyone > actually does. > > --------------- > Phil Wilson > > > On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Gerry Reno <gr...@verizon.net> wrote: >> If I take out the InstallScope then the install succeeds on XP (of course >> Win 7 w/UAC then fails). >> >> If I leave in the InstallScope then the reverse is true. >> >> With the InstallScope, on XP the LogonUser ends up being SYSTEM whereas >> without InstallScope it is the logged on user. >> >> This is what is causing the problem. Not CopyFile, not CopyFile, etc. >> >> >> >> On 02/07/2014 01:59 PM, Phil Wilson wrote: >>> I don't know for a fact because there is a CA processes firing off a >>> process firing off a process but..... if any of the things in that >>> chain are a ShellExecute type of process initiation then there will >>> not be any transfer of privilege into the process and you'll see >>> access denied. That's why CopyFile is better. There is less >>> obfuscation about what's actually happening. >>> >>> Note that you're referring to the 64-bit Program Files folder, so be >>> sure that's the right one - that's the native 64-bit folder. >>> --------------- >>> Phil Wilson >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Gerry Reno <gr...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>> It knows about our custom actions as well and they rollback just fine. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 02/06/2014 09:42 PM, David Connet wrote: >>>>> I have to wonder, why in the world are you using cmd.exe in a custom >>>>> action to copy a file? (**twitch** **twitch**) >>>>> >>>>> <CopyFile> is much easier and msi knows about it (hence handles >>>>> uninstall, rollback, upgrade, etc). >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> On 2/6/2014 5:35 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: >>>>>> Ok, after some experiments: >>>>>> >>>>>> The copy file is like this: >>>>>> CustomActionSchedule(Action=CopyFile,ActionType=3073,Source=BinaryData,Target=CAQuietExec,CustomActionData="cmd.exe" >>>>>> /c >>>>>> copy "C:\Program Files\OURCOMPANY\OURPRODUCT\OURFILE.exe" >>>>>> "C:\OURSTUFF\[LogonUser]\ADIRECTORY\\") >>>>>> >>>>>> And now since I added InstallScope="perMachine" the LogonUser on XP gets >>>>>> set to SYSTEM instead of the user name. And >>>>>> this is why things fail on XP. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Win 7 this is not a problem. The LogonUser stays as the user name. >>>>>> >>>>>> How to fix this? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 02/06/2014 05:41 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: >>>>>>> I now have this half-way working. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Installing on Windows 7 w/UAC succeeds >>>>>>> Installing on Windows XP fails >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In .wxs: >>>>>>> InstallScope="perMachine" >>>>>>> InstallPrivileges="elevated" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> CopyFile is setup in an immediate property and then executed >>>>>>> deferred without impersonation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> XP Install Log Error: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Executing op: >>>>>>> CustomActionSchedule(Action=CopyFile,ActionType=3073,Source=BinaryData,Target=CAQuietExec,CustomActionData="cmd.exe" >>>>>>> /c >>>>>>> copy "C:\Program Files\OURCOMPANY\OURPRODUCT\OURFILE.exe" >>>>>>> "C:\OURSTUFF\ADIRECTORY\\") >>>>>>> MSI (s) (88:B8) [17:22:38:307]: Invoking remote custom action. DLL: >>>>>>> C:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI5B4C.tmp, Entrypoint: >>>>>>> CAQuietExec >>>>>>> CAQuietExec: Access is denied. >>>>>>> CAQuietExec: 0 file(s) copied. >>>>>>> CAQuietExec: Error 0x80070001: Command line returned an error. >>>>>>> CAQuietExec: Error 0x80070001: CAQuietExec Failed >>>>>>> Action ended 17:22:38: InstallFinalize. Return value 3. >>>>>>> MSI (s) (88:68) [17:22:38:447]: User policy value 'DisableRollback' is 0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there something else I need to do for the Windows XP installs? >>>>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications >>>>> Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. >>>>> Read the Whitepaper. >>>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> WiX-users mailing list >>>>> WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications >>>> Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. >>>> Read the Whitepaper. >>>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WiX-users mailing list >>>> WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications >>> Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. >>> Read the Whitepaper. >>> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WiX-users mailing list >>> WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications >> Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. >> Read the Whitepaper. >> http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk >> _______________________________________________ >> WiX-users mailing list >> WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications > Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. > Read the Whitepaper. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=121051231&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk > _______________________________________________ > WiX-users mailing list > WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Managing the Performance of Cloud-Based Applications Take advantage of what the Cloud has to offer - Avoid Common Pitfalls. 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