It's not Wix, it's MSI.

A detailed install log might show when the user is set.

Dave




>________________________________
> From: Gerry Reno <gr...@verizon.net>
>To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
>Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2014 3:13 PM
>Subject: Re: [WiX-users] XP Install Error 0x80070001 Access is denied
> 
>
>Could I please have a straightforward answer as to why WiX is changing the 
>LogonUser from the logged on user to SYSTEM
>when InstallScope is set to perMachine on XP installs?  On Win7 the LogonUser 
>remains the logged on user.
>
>Thank you.
>
>
>
>On 02/09/2014 02:43 PM, Phil Wilson wrote:
>> Some rambling comments:
>>
>> First thing: it's already been said but this whole thing of running
>> cmd.exe is a bad idea, especially when there is an alternative, the
>> WiX copyfile element . You should be using it, that's the point being
>> made, the built-in MSI capability of copying files, table driven, not
>> a custom action of any kind.
>>
>> So in the absence of InstallScope your XP install is running as per
>> user, and this will typically work on an XP system where user custom
>> actions are elevated.  It will fail on a UAC box because custom
>> actions must run with the system account to be elevated, but it fails
>> on XP with the system account.
>>
>> So the common issue appears to be that your custom action fails when
>> run with the system account, but it needs to run with system to be
>> elevated on a UAC box.  I don't know why that's failing because a)
>> Nobody uses a CA like that to do a copy, so there's no user experience
>> of it and b) It's a nasty Windows issue related to cmd.exe being
>> initiated under the local system account and things as basic as
>> whether privileges are transferred and if there's even a cmd.exe
>> available for the system account - why does the system account need
>> access to cmd.exe, an interactive command processor? At this point
>> it's no longer about WiX or MSI.
>>
>> I don't know if anyone has other ideas, but to use a dumb simile, it's
>> like being in a homebuilder's forum and asking about the best glue to
>> stick together the walls of your paper house. They'll tell you not to
>> do it and you won't get many replies because it's not something anyone
>> actually does.
>>
>> ---------------
>> Phil Wilson
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Gerry Reno <gr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> If I take out the InstallScope then the install succeeds on XP (of course 
>>> Win 7 w/UAC then fails).
>>>
>>> If I leave in the InstallScope then the reverse is true.
>>>
>>> With the InstallScope, on XP the LogonUser ends up being SYSTEM whereas 
>>> without InstallScope it is the logged on user.
>>>
>>> This is what is causing the problem.  Not CopyFile, not CopyFile, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 02/07/2014 01:59 PM, Phil Wilson wrote:
>>>> I don't know for a fact because there is a CA processes firing off a
>>>> process firing off a process but..... if any of the things in that
>>>> chain are a ShellExecute type of process initiation then there will
>>>> not be any transfer of privilege into the process and you'll see
>>>> access denied. That's why CopyFile is better. There is less
>>>> obfuscation about what's actually happening.
>>>>
>>>> Note that you're referring to the 64-bit Program Files folder, so be
>>>> sure that's the right one - that's the native 64-bit folder.
>>>> ---------------
>>>> Phil Wilson
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Gerry Reno <gr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> It knows about our custom actions as well and they rollback just fine.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 02/06/2014 09:42 PM, David Connet wrote:
>>>>>> I have to wonder, why in the world are you using cmd.exe in a custom
>>>>>> action to copy a file? (**twitch** **twitch**)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <CopyFile> is much easier and msi knows about it (hence handles
>>>>>> uninstall, rollback, upgrade, etc).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/6/2014 5:35 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>>>>>>> Ok, after some experiments:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The copy file is like this:
>>>>>>> CustomActionSchedule(Action=CopyFile,ActionType=3073,Source=BinaryData,Target=CAQuietExec,CustomActionData="cmd.exe"
>>>>>>>  /c
>>>>>>> copy "C:\Program Files\OURCOMPANY\OURPRODUCT\OURFILE.exe" 
>>>>>>> "C:\OURSTUFF\[LogonUser]\ADIRECTORY\\")
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And now since I added InstallScope="perMachine" the LogonUser on XP 
>>>>>>> gets set to SYSTEM instead of the user name.  And
>>>>>>> this is why things fail on XP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Win 7 this is not a problem.  The LogonUser stays as the user name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How to fix this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 02/06/2014 05:41 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>>>>>>>> I now have this half-way working.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Installing on Windows 7 w/UAC succeeds
>>>>>>>> Installing on Windows XP fails
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In .wxs:
>>>>>>>>        InstallScope="perMachine"
>>>>>>>>        InstallPrivileges="elevated"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>        CopyFile is setup in an immediate property and then executed 
>>>>>>>>deferred without impersonation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> XP Install Log Error:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Executing op:
>>>>>>>> CustomActionSchedule(Action=CopyFile,ActionType=3073,Source=BinaryData,Target=CAQuietExec,CustomActionData="cmd.exe"
>>>>>>>>  /c
>>>>>>>> copy "C:\Program Files\OURCOMPANY\OURPRODUCT\OURFILE.exe" 
>>>>>>>> "C:\OURSTUFF\ADIRECTORY\\")
>>>>>>>> MSI (s) (88:B8) [17:22:38:307]: Invoking remote custom action. DLL: 
>>>>>>>> C:\WINDOWS\Installer\MSI5B4C.tmp, Entrypoint:
>>>>>>>> CAQuietExec
>>>>>>>> CAQuietExec:  Access is denied.
>>>>>>>> CAQuietExec:          0 file(s) copied.
>>>>>>>> CAQuietExec:  Error 0x80070001: Command line returned an error.
>>>>>>>> CAQuietExec:  Error 0x80070001: CAQuietExec Failed
>>>>>>>> Action ended 17:22:38: InstallFinalize. Return value 3.
>>>>>>>> MSI (s) (88:68) [17:22:38:447]: User policy value 'DisableRollback' is >>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there something else I need to do for the Windows XP installs?
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