I usually just lurk on this list, but I have to disagree with the " we don't need it" school.
I think that "please don't decorate me" is a perfectly sane request (it's a hint, after all). If we don't have a hint like that, apps will have to abuse DOCK or override-redirect to get what they want, and we all know those two approaches have their own side-effects (worse, IMO, than allowing apps to request no-decoration). Bill Lubos Lunak wrote: >On Thursday 23 of June 2005 05:46, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > >>On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 22:25:47 -0400 Havoc Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>babbled: >> >> >>>On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 20:08 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Well _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DOCK is wrong because xmms is not a dock, and >>>>because in most wms it has a side effect on stacking order. >>>> >>>> >>>How about >>>_NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_AUDIO_APPS_ALL_THINK_THEY_HAVE_TO_HAVE_NONSTANDARD_UI >>> >>>;-) >>> >>>and _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_GKRELLM_IS_LEET_TOO >>> >>> >>fun aside - it's a valid thing to ask for imho. why should people be >>limited to only fit in the mould given to them? >> >>if "standard" were for everyone we'd all live in the same house, drive the >>same car - of the same color, wear the same shoes, clothes, have the same >>furniture etc. >> >>freedom of choice is good. if a developer wants their app to have no >>borders it should be well supported imho. >> >> > > I think I'd agree with Havoc here. Why should it be the app's decision? >Gkrellm can very well be a TYPE_DOCK, and XMMS is such an exercise in >non-standard GUI it's probably not even worth talking about it. KWin has an >user option for turning off the border for some windows, and supports the >Motif hint, but why exactly should we support (read: encourage) it in the >spec besides letting the app developers create their own "cool" decorations? > > > _______________________________________________ wm-spec-list mailing list wm-spec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/wm-spec-list
