On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 10:07:11 -0500 Sasha Vasko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:53:33 -0500 Sasha Vasko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > babbled: > > > > > >>Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >> > >> > >>>On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 12:17:35 -0500 Sasha Vasko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>babbled: correct. now the problem. (semantically). xterm asks for > >>>100x25-0-0. gravity is SE. it changes font size to a larger font. ok. fair > >>>enough. NOW user moves xterm to top-left of screen. xterm starts using an > >>>even bigger font. what now? the gravity is SE even though technically that > >>>was only a useful gravity at map time. one the window moved from the SE > >>>corner... it wasn't such a hot idea anymore to now make the window resize > >>>up and to the left. it's highly problematic even for the wm if it wishes to > >>>obey the gravity hints and even calculate its own new x & y - does it obey > >>>the window gravity hints, or does it go "well - they don't apply anymore" - > >>>and what can clients expect such behavior to be... ? > >>> > >> > >>It was user who explicitely requested SE gravity. So if user moves > >>window into different corner he/she still expects window to follow it. > >>If it goes off screen after resize - that's what user requested. If you > >>want to empower user - add functionality to window manager to allow > >>changing gravity for any open window. > > > > > > well they requested the window to star in the bottom-left of the screen, but > > now they moved the window, they have no way to change that request. > > implicitly i would say their desire now is to have it have NW gravity - > > BUT, there is no facility to change that explicitly for the user, and as > > best i last read - the wm shouldn't be freely changing how it interprets > > gravity (though in this case that would be very useful). the problem here > > is that the app may do things bases on Se gravity with respect to its own > > window contents. but now the wm may have switched to NW gravity. > > How could possibly an app use its win_gravity for its contents ? The one > and only purpose it serves is top-level window position, and as I say - > an app has no business messing with that. it SET is gravity assuming then its "origin" (i use that loosely) is the bottom-right. so for example if i have an image in an image viewer. with NW gravity and if i don't scale the image to fit, it is in the top-left with blank space as the window resizes to the right and bottom. now if your gravity is SE - you would want the inverse of the behavior inside the app window reflecting its "intended" gravity on the screen. well this is one scenario. > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) _______________________________________________ wm-spec-list mailing list wm-spec-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/wm-spec-list
