Let's come back to objective technical discussions...
(and leave the rest to IRC or whatever, but out of mailbox 
please)

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:22:17 +0100 Denis Grelich:
> increment handling
>   it was complained often and by many about how windows who rely on
>   incrementation are handled. I would suggest to get rid of the margins
>   around increment-handled windows by simply fitting the window inside
>   the frame and filling the space inside the frame with black. Also,
>   let's just get rid of the relaxation altogether, since increment
>   handling doesn't fit into the dynamic wm paradigm anyway and those
>   apps should be avoided/replaced.
Is ok for me. Currently some clients get resized several 
times, when de- and recofusing them, this is very annoying. 
This simple solution may waste more space, but treats all 
clients the same and seems to be less error-prone.

> mouse focus model/borders
>   raise-on-focus has been identified as annoying. Even though
>   it might simplify things, it would be more useful to
>   have raise-on-click. To make this feasible, it is important to give
>   back some functionality to the title bars and the borders, but that
>   would raise even more questions. I suppose to postpone this issue to
>   after 3.5, since the complete focus model is due to discussion anyway
>   for wmii-4.
Well...I don't need raise-on-focus, if the just the mouse is moved 
into the client's area. Raise-on-click is ok, but clients should still
be raised when focusing them via keyboard-shortcuts.
And I'd like to see click-through then... It's very annoying if you 
have the mouse over your client, it's defocused by keyboard-movement 
and you want to click a button, but you have to click twice. BTW 
this applies to the left button only, middle and right button have 
click-through! (and ever had)

> compiler compatibility
>   Stefan Tibus sent in a patch working around some incompatibilities. It
>   is applied to current tip, but it introduced some problems. I'll look
>   into it on Thursday. The code should be cleaned up to standard C for
>   the release.
Well...that certainly was quick'n'dirty, just to get it work.

> re-adding swap
>   even though this adds yet another set of shortcuts, it is missed by
>   many.
Yes - unless you can convince me of something better ;-)

> column/frame resizing
>   visual aids when resizing frames and columns don't correspond to
>   reality.
And there should be a proper interface regarding the resizing in 
managed mode by keyboard-shortcuts as well then.

> some changes on the wmiirc. Especially the fact that you have
> duplicated shortcut definitions is not ideal.
Hm, yes, but this is somewhat related to the fact of wmiirc being 
a sh-script, isn't it?
A somewhat configurable C-replacement could offer a simple and 
fast replacement. If somebody needs more flexibility the options 
are modifying the source or using a more powerful scripting 
language (and coping with their overhead).

And: I don't need editable tagbars as long as I can do that via 
keyboard (and dmenu). It would probably be enough to attach 
"modify tag" (via dmenu) to e.g. right-click in the title-bar.
(Also, most often it would be a waste of space having the tag 
in the title-bar (for me).)

Regards,
Stefan
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