Well written Milan, I totally agree with you. This has been discussed
a couple of times over the years but nothing has really changed.
*Mvh*
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Milan Dinić skrev 2010-07-30 02:26:
You should subscribe to the RSS feed at
http://wordpress.org/news/category/releases/.
You are changing mind :)
http://lists.automattic.com/pipermail/wp-polyglots/2010-June/004672.html :
I don't see a reason to develop a notification service other
than us manually sending an email as we are prepping everything for release.
Problem with relying on RSS from wp.org/news <http://wp.org/news> is
that it is very slow process. We need faster notification via email.
Demetris emailed this list 19 days ago, and we haven't changed a
string since. I also alerted the list to string changes as they
occurred. Your translations should be complete; you only need to
push a button now.
You first need to know how this process works:
- we need to check if there is any new string since last update and if
files for direct translation were changed
- we commit translations to SVN and need to wait around 10 minutes
before we can build a locale package at locale site
- we need to wait xx minutes before locale version will appear on
upgrade screen even if it was hours before last check to api was made
(I just tested this again today: I didn't have notification about
update until I went to upgrade screen where I only got option to
update to en_US even though locale package was already available on
locale.wp.org <http://locale.wp.org>)
- if we updated to en_US while there wasn't locale package, we will
again receive notification about new version, this time with option to
upgrade to locale package
So even if we have ready translations and see news about release the
same moment as it is posted, we still need xx minutes before new
locale version will appear at upgrade screen. And what if we don't
release a locale package for several hours or day(s) because we were
offline, unaware that new version will be released? Users will update
to en_US, some strings will be untranslated (depending if it is
version from new branch and how many changes there are in new
version), and when new locale version is release they'll again get
notification about update and they'll ask "WTF!? I already updated to
this version!"
We need a different process related to releases. Translators should be
warned when new version will be released, not just because they need
to update translations, but because they need to be ready to "push a
button" (if it was that simple). I could understand if there was need
for unplanned release because of discovery of huge security issue that
needs to be fixed as soon as possible, but those releases are not that
often and you don't have a reason to not inform us in advance.
You must be aware that this process is not friendly for translators
and for users of locale versions. You must be aware that there are
users who use locale version (check for stats for exact percent) and
you can't ignore that fact in release process. If you really want to
fully support i18n and l10n in automatic upgrades and notification
about upgrades, you must stop with current practice and make strict
rules with translators about release process which should be followed
by everyone.
2010/7/30 Andrew Nacin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
3.0.1 has been released.
I had an email drafted to polyglots, but we made a last minute
change and I got sidetracked.
It hasn't been several hours; WordPress 3.0.1 proper was released
72 minutes ago, but I digress. You should subscribe to the RSS
feed at http://wordpress.org/news/category/releases/.
Cheers!
Nacin
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Milan Dinić <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Again no notification in advance (I mean at least several
hours) and no notification after release is made (so we still
need to use external notification services).
I would expect that Nacin would inform us, he was active on
this list last months.
2010/7/10 Demetris <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Hello, polyglots!
This is a note that WordPress 3.0.1 is expected to be
released around mid July.
Like all maintenance releases, it will be a very good
opportunity for
translation teams to push
improvements/additions/corrections/etc. in
their localizations.
(I know that I try to take advantage of maintenance
releases for that
purpose—fixing strings, localizing more strings, etc.—,
and I imagine
other WordPress translators do the same thing.)
Note also that 3.0.1 has a few changes in strings (mainly
to correct
typos, if I remember correctly). So, remember to update
your PO files
too!
Cheers,
Demetris
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