I was struggling with this while I reviewed the doc.  For instance, should
we consider HPKP processing by the client?  Is there a general rule we can
use to identify what¹s in & out of scope?

Thanks,

Wayne





On 11/27/13, 6:20 AM, "Tim Moses" <tim.mo...@entrust.com> wrote:

>Tom.  These are good points.  They relate more to the TLS stack than the
>PKI.  But, they are relevant for all that.
>
>Can you provide specific questions?
>
>All the best. Tim.
>
>> On Nov 27, 2013, at 6:09 AM, "t.petch" <ie...@btconnect.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Complicated:-(  Perhaps there is a danger of losing the wood for the
>> trees.
>> 
>> Thus, I think of TLS in terms of cipher suites and think that software
>> vendors would too; the mix and match approach of algorithms in 2) (where
>> is RC4 or AEAD or AES-GCM?) seems likely to produce the wrong answers.
>> 
>> I also think of TLS in terms of versions, of which there are two values
>> that appear separately in setting up a TLS connection, and many software
>> vendors would appear not to understand what the specification says in
>> that regard and so are in breach of it.  Fallback attacks derived
>> therefrom are a significant part of using TLS.
>> 
>> And then there is Key Usage; some check, other do not.
>> 
>> And the hot topic of three years ago was Renego and support for it;
>> still significant today.  Links into fallback attacks.
>> 
>> While a running sore is where does the software get its identifier from;
>> this document keeps talking of DN (I wonder how common that is).
>> RFC6125 should probably be in there somewhere.
>> 
>> And the treatment of user certs (I know what Microsoft does and it is
>> very sensible but suspect that it is unique).
>> 
>> etc etc
>> 
>> Tom Petch
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rick Andrews" <rick_andr...@symantec.com>
>> To: <wpkops@ietf.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 12:27 AM
>> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> Here's a very early draft, started by Tim with updates from David and
>> me. I've turned on Track Changes; please feel free to add edits and
>> comments.
>> 
>> I'm sure there's many more questions we can ask. Please pile 'em on.
>> 
>> -Rick
>> 
>> 
>> 
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