Hi Justin

You might want to try the following sites:

http://www.opensourcecms.com/
This site has open source CMS's that are php/mysql based. They have actually
set up and installed CMS's on their server and allow you to go and use their
system.

Since you will be making a choice of what CMS your organisation will use,
you might want to see http://www.cmsreview.com/index.html to help choose
which CMS might be right for you...

And if you really have some spare time on your hands, check out Column Two
archives found at
http://www.steptwo.com.au/columntwo/archives/cat_content_management.html
which should keep you busy for some hours  :)


Ralph


-----Original Message-----
From: Justin French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2004 5:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] New CMS / Framework



Hi all,

Inspired by the needs, comments and wishes of Dave Shae's "Wanted: CMS" 
post on Mezzoblue 
<http://www.mezzoblue.com/archives/2004/01/09/wanted_cms/>, I'm taking 
up the challenge, and building the CMS I've always wanted (which it 
looks like Dave and others wanted too).  Off the top of my head, with 
no warranty whatsoever, I'd like it to be distributed under a license 
similar to MT's multi-license for personal/commercial/pro use, or even 
GPL.

More (and less) than a CMS, what I'm aiming at is a framework which 
provides a simple CMS, but more importantly offers a killer API for 
plug-ins and extensions.  I'm 100% convinced that the perfect CMS 
doesn't exist, but I hope that I can build one that meets basic needs, 
with unlimited scope for extensions.

I'm NOT building another blog tool (although there will be a blog 
plug-in), and I'm not building a bloated portal system that can do 
everything and anything (although the plug-in API would allow for it 
all)... what I'm building is a system that answers *my* common 
requirements, and hopefully those of a large number of developers out 
there in the process.

My assumption (and my need) is a system where the developer (me for 
example) sets up the site, creates the content models and templates, 
creates the CSS, hooks in new plug-ins (or even builds a new one), then 
hands it over to content writers and editors to run on a day-by-day 
basis.  As such, my target market isn't really website owners, but 
website developers acting on behalf of website owners.

Naturally the content-adding back-end will need to be usable by regular 
office staff, but the areas that the developers deal with (creating new 
content models and templates) will be quite raw (no need to write a 
template engine when PHP already is one, etc).

It's quite possible I've got this all wrong, and this isn't what other 
people want at all, but that's OK, because I still want it for me and 
my clients.  Even so, I'm keen to get the ball rolling on a wish-list 
of features (keeping in mind that this is supposed to be lightweight, 
allowing as much freedom as possible to develop add-ons) from everyone 
out there.


To start the ball rolling, here are a *few* of mine:

- LAMP based (possibly with a DB abstraction layer)
- page (rather than post) oriented, with regular dir & file hierarchy, 
simple SE friendly URLs, etc
- extensibility through a simple but open plug-in API
- works on a basic install of PHP (no recompiles and external libs)
- different content models (a news post is different to a recipe, blog 
post, tech article, etc etc)

Feel free to keep emails private or public, and if you want to be 
involved in Beta testing etc (and get a freebie in the process), just 
let me know.


Thanks,
Justin French

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