RE: [WSG]

[Lee Roberts]

Hello Kim, When you use accesskey please be sure to identify it using the title attribute for the anchor.  I normally use numbers when using accesskeys.  That helps remove the possibility that I'll be overriding a key that is used for another function.   On the H1 issue, there are many people that think using an H1 around the logo or hidden text.  Unfortunately, that is improper.  Your H1 should be visible and should support the title of the page.   In my opinion your H3 elements do not qualify as real headings.   Probably the easiest way to explain how heading tags should be used is to relate the web page to a chapter in a book.  Screen readers do not read the page title, unless coming through a search engine or a link that uses the title of the page the link goes to.  Therefore, the H1 is the first heading that should be used.   When we examine further we find subsections within the chapter.  Those subsections are not small paragraphs.  So, I would ask why would you use a heading tag to lead into a single paragraph?  There are search engine optimization companies and web designers that don't understand how these things work.  They regrettably lead people into unfortunate paths or errors.   Always think of a web page like a chapter within your domain's book.  And remember, books have sections where a series of chapters fit within that section.  That would fall into a directory situation.   Your H3 elements should be bold text instead of headings.   I'm glad you have that page meeting Bobby AAA conformance.  However, Bobby is only a machine validator.  Since I don't know Danish I'm stuck in helping further.  If you have an English version I would be happy to go over it further.  There may be a few more things you can do to meet WCAG 1.0 AAA conformance.  Let me know.   I hope this helps.   Sincerely, Lee Roberts http://www.roserockdesign.com http://www.applepiecart.com       From: Kim Kruse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 3:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Hi Lee,     >Hello Kim, >Strict requires all pages to be opened in the same window.   OK... I thought the onkeypress combined with onclick would do OK since it validates strict   >Regardless of how you do the _javascript_ it will not provide an accessible option.  My recommendation would be to remove the >onkeypress and use tabindex and accesskey.  Then the person can open those links in new windows.  I would have the links >open in a new window and that window be a regular window - not like you have now.   OK... I'll follow your recommandation and use accesskey instead.   >Let us discuss heading tags for a moment.  You seem to be using your heading tags improperly.  Your H1 tag is the same on all >pages and linked to your homepage.  That is improper.  H1 tags help define the topic of the page.  Subsequent heading tags >should support or be a sub-heading of the previous heading.  .   I use the H1 as a general describtion for the group (forside) and then I use the H2 to identify the topic for the page in focus. Is that wrong?   >Your H3 headings seem to be used for font sizing.  You cannot use >heading tags for font size declarations.  They must be >used for real headings   No... they are used for paragraph headings (Describtions)   >3.5 Use header elements to convey document structure and use them according to specification. [Priority 2] >For example, in HTML, use H2 to indicate a subsection of H1. Do not use headers for font effects.   So it may be that I use the H1 tag in untraditional way but still according to the describtion you give... well almost.   >I hope this helps further.   Yes it does... but I'm also quite confused. I thought the way I set up the page would better if you can't see the pageand have to use a screenreader. Is it better to use the H1, H2 and H3 tags the way you described or is the way I use them also OK? (and that would be H1=group describtion, H2=page describtion and H3 as describtion for the paragraphs which are short news)   I hope I don't ask too much but I find this stuff rather complicated.   Thanks for all your help Kim   >Sincerely, >Lee Roberts >http://www.roserockdesign.com >http://www.applepiecart.com