Mordechai Peller wrote: >>And there's your mistake. As has been discussed many times on this list >>and elsewhere, it's much easier and faster to first code to standards >>and then correct for IE.
I may be a duck out of water here, but I don't find it to be so. I've done it both ways, and marking up for IE first, I can get it together and on the web faster than marking up for other browsers, and IE. After the site is live, I can then go back and tweak settings to make sure it works with other browsers, and gradually implement the changes in CSS files or markup. >>I don't know how well you do or do not know JavaScript, but I suspect >>that either you don't know JavaScript very well (a common occurrence), >>or don't like to program (do such people really exist? ;-) ). I have >>found that the better I come to understand JavaScript, the more I like >>it; in many ways it is an interesting, powerful little, often >>misunderstood, language.[1] While by no means an expert on JavaScript, I've been using it for about nine years now. You are correct however, in that I don't like to program. At all. I come from a design background, not a computer science background. I outsource 95% of my PHP/SQL work, and concentrate almost exclusively on design for the web and print, but still choose to do all markup, because I do believe that standards compliant markup is something that is very, very important, and don't trust anybody else to do it. :) >>Actually, what I was questioning is why we should limit ourselves to the >>CSS which IE understands natively when JavaScript can be such a good >>translator. The reason I limit myself, is that I can move all my design concepts to the web without using JavaScript as a translator, rather by simply using standards compliant markup and CSS formatting. However, I do abide by the "less is more" line of thought when it comes to design, and try to keep everything as simple and understandable as possible. Again, this is because I cater to a specific audience. Say Kioken Design were still around today and they were staunch supporters of standards compliance. In that case, flashiness would supersede content and usability, and they would have good reason to use every tool and trick available to make sure their design ideas were carried over. Thanks for the link to IE7 - really nice! Cheers, Collin Davis Web Architect Stromberg Architectural Products p 903.454.0904 f 903.454.3642 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] web www.strombergarchitectural.com >>While I find debating different religions and philosophies enjoyable and >>interesting, besides being very off topic, It's often not worth the risk >>of causing offense. If you use IRC at all, I'd like to invite you to #computerhelp on Undernet, where I'm a channel administrator. We have a great group of people, and are always looking for intelligent newcomers! ****************************************************** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ******************************************************